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Terrence Webster-Doyle - Personal Profile

Terrence Webster-Doyle
Terrence Webster-Doyle
United States
Birthday: April 3
Member since: Thu, 11 Jun 2009, 9:34pm
Last visited almost 11 years ago

Member Statement

I am a former Director of the Oak Grove School. I was personally asked by Krishnamurti to do so in 1984. I had written him a letter saying that I was not, in all due respect, interested in him, but rather in understanding conditioning, which I realized could be seen by anyone that cared to look. (I had been seriously interested in understanding conditioning since 1969 when I first heard someone read a passage by Krishnamurti)
I left the school shortly after taking over as Head Master mainly because I realized that the school when joining WASC (the Wester Association of School and Colleges) would have to conform to high conventional academic standards and therefore the students would have little or no time to have an education that fully explored K's insights into education.
I have been in contact with the school lately and I am quite dismayed that they are still mainly concerned with being a conventional prep school. The only class being taught that they feel is educating their students to what Krishnamurti is saying is for seniors on "philosophic and religious world views including Krishnamurt." To me this is in total contradiction to what Krishnamurti was saying. The school original intent was to "understand conditioning" and when this more conventional approach was chosen I felt that there was a loss of that intent.
I have for years tried to create resources for teachers and young people that help to understand conditioning in a practical and relevant format. I am interested in starting a school that really teaches the insights into conditioned thinking. My other desire is to start a Krishnamurti Teacher Training College so teachers can be properly trained to educate young people about conditioning. I look forward to meeting others who would care to dialog about these possibilities.

Interests and Recommendations


Fighting the Invisible Enemy?Understanding the Effects f Conditioning

Other interests

Martial Arts for Peace ? self defense for self understanding

Interview Answers

Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

I have done so since 1969. I taught seminars for four years on Krishnamurti at Sonoma State College in Northern California in the 1970s. My wife and I started a school in Ojai, California in 1984 whose intent was to address the need to understand the roots of human conflict in the way we are conditioned to think.
My experience with teaching about conditioning is that most adults intellectualize what Krishnamurti was saying or they follow "The Teachings" as if they were dogma. But I am encourage by young people understanding conditioning when presented to them in a practical and relevant format such as bullying ? from the playground to the battlefield" as we call it. I have had many intelligent dialogues with them in this area for they are still open to question.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Vitally important especially in the manner that Davis Bohm spoke about.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

I think he pointed to the obvious, to the conditioned fragmentation that exists in ourselves and outwardly in society and how this created tremendous conflict. All he asked was for people to look at this, to actually see, to have an insight in the moment in how this is being habitually carried out and in this moment to not act on it. As he said "inaction is the highest form of action."
As I said before and as I said to Krishnamurti in a letter to him that got me hired as he Head Master of the Oak Grove School that I am, "in all due respect" not interested in him but in only to what he is pointing to that anyone can see for themselves. Neither am I interested in "His" or The Teachings" that some people are now referring to when they speak of him. Either one can see conditioning as a fact in one''s life and in the world, which seems so obvious, or one can't. In other words, one can't see through Krishnamurit's eyes.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

While I was at the Oak Grove School Krishnamurit asked us numerous times to create programs for young people that could do this. This is what my wife and I have been doing for the past 25 years. We created programs on prejudicial conditioned l thinking that we used internationally and most lately with children of war in Liberia. Our programs on conditioning demonstrated that no matter how conditioned to violence these war torn children were, having grown up in war and knowing nothing else, with the right education the have been liberated from that mindset. We have written a book about it called Brave New Child?Liberating the Children of Liberia and the World. This book was based on our book and curricula titled Why Is Everybody Always Picking On Us? Understanding the Roots of Prejudice.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

As I said before one can see conditioning for oneself. As Krishnamurti said "Look for yurself" and also "its not difficult, it just takes hard work.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

What he spoke of can be understood by anyone who has the serious intent to do so.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

I just look!

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David Loucks (account deleted) wrote:
Wed, 24 Jun 2009, 10:44pm


My wife, Betty Tenney, was a mother at the Oak Grove School. She remembers you and your wife Jean (the former St John) and she says hello. I see you have the same concern for what may be happening in Ojai with regard to the direction of the KFA and the Oak Grove School.

Best regards, David Loucks

David Loucks (account deleted) wrote:
Sat, 27 Jun 2009, 10:08pm

Terrence, I would appreciate it if you would remove the two identical postings of my response to your posting on the disscussion board. By you posting what I wrote I have no way to edit or remove what I wrote. I have no control.

I can see that whatever anyone writes on this board there are going to be some completely irrelevent diatribes in response by a couple of people on this site that appear to me to be bat-shit crazy. I, of course, am not referring to you but to a couple of others. Thanks, David Loucks