Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Thomas Grimm
Thomas Grimm
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Birthday: April 24
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Everything is connected, whole, alive, sacred, and One~~~and this ground of all being, from which all arises and into which all falls~~~is our home.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

No one gets it like they want it in this material world but that's alright, it doesn't last forever. So why settle for finding some meaning within the shadows on the wall of Plato's Cave, when you can walk out of there, and into The light? Only question is~~~who does the walking?

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Jiddu Krishnamurti is the most influential spiritual teacher of my life, and I have taken a meandering spiritual path through this world to get to such a place. I first read K in 1971 during my senior year of college and although he made sense of it all, I could not follow the many twists and turns his consciousness took during his talks and in his writings. My only appraisal of K at that time was if I came to understand life as well as this man seems to, I will have lived a full life.
Not long after that I encountered people with psychic powers and observed them as they lived spiritual lives but, by my late 20s, I had finished my exploration of my culture's spirituality the culmination of which was being kicked out of a fundamentalist christian community at the age of 29.
Removed from the confines of fundamentalism I began to go back to my spiritual roots in The 60s when I was a Hippie, did LSD, and knew spiritual people. Reading Alan Watts again led to a Krishnamurti quote and back to reading K. "Truth is a pathless land." Having been on the Straight and Narrow, the One Way path of a savior, well? Truth is a pathless land. I saw it. Over the years many of K's insights were as seeds planted in my life and things he said and wrote bore their fruit in due time. K is the only guy that I encountered who saw thought's limitations and death's beauty, and that the two of them were not seperate. His descriptions of nature are some of his most beautiful writing and when reading them you sense him speaking from a Timeless Place, and for a moment holding you by the hand he takes you there.
I have to thank K for alot of things, but the greatest gift of the teaching (besides the living) is the freedom from Psychological Becoming. You don't have to become somebody, and to be free of that in this culture (USA) is a rarity. Hell for the most part America is a Pop Porno Culture of Personality and we all want to be Famous! On TV! Recognized, affirmed, approved, validated, and as K would say: all the rest of it. But K was famous and that brings it's own problems...
K, as they say these days: "didn't play well with others". Only David Boem seemed to be accepted as an equal in dialogue and the two of them together did seem to let Life shine on through, but K beat poor ole Dr. Shainberg like a bad dog, and I'm not sure anyone should be treated like that. Sure K was a loner and I like loners, but I don't see K as being "unique". Would not the Creator and Living Spirit of God touch many men and women and other conscious beings in this world, and on many other worlds? K even put a limit on K when he said we'd not see another for 400 years. Look, there are only two people that I know of that ever turned down the job of Messiah when it was offered to them: Jiddu Krishnamurti and Bob Dylan. K was special, although not totally transparent. He never owned up to his relationship with Rosalind, and when he and Alan Naud spoke of beings reincarnating from The Stream of Vulgarity, I wonder if K saw himself seperate from that stream? I think he did and it may be so, The Plaidies and all of that, but my spirit says we're all the same.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

That~~~there would not be another one like him for 400 years~~~and~~~that 'the spiritual life' he spoke of could be a constant reality in this impermanent world of illusions. Jiddu Krishnamurti was a human being~~~just as you or I~~~and because of that he once believed in The Masters, fell into a sexual relationship with Rosalind Rajagopal that he never owned up to, and even in his most revealing writings~~~Krishnamurti's Notebook~~~described~~~'The Other'~~~as coming and going~~~a part of his 'process'. Look~~~I'm not trying to degrade Krishnamurti~~~for there is no other person that I never knew, except through their writings, that has helped me develope a way to express the inexpressible. "Truth is a pathless land"~~~and the fruit of this insight is freedom~~~but it's power comes from The Creator~~~The Spirit~~~The Other~~~and I'll say the word~~~God~~~not the person of Jiddu Krishnamurti. He was a man~~~and God touches each and everyone of us~~~just as he.

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