Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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geoffrey cubbon
geoffrey cubbon
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Member since: Sat, 27 Feb 2010, 9:31pm
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Member Statement

I first encountered the teachings some years ago and was deeply affected by them . My
life since then has been an inner dialogue between the teachings and the realities and pressures of my life .

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

It depends on who is in the group . Intelligence is about independence of mind
and group discussion tends to be a social rather than an enlightening
experience .Subtlety is about awareness and observation which is usually
best done within oneself .Group discussion can stimulate and suggest new
approaches but the hard work has to be done alone

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

On the whole , it is not advisable ! If you want to convey the teachings , I have
found it best to present them as my own . It is fatal to talk about this
great Indian philosopher with a funny name!

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

At worst , they will become a foot note in the history of Buddhist thought .I
think it more likely that the prospects are better than this . The teachings are fully
consonant with the values of the European Enlightenment and the approach to reality which we call the Scientific Method . Both of these are deeply rooted in
important civilisations which barring a nuclear or other catastrophe will survive and prosper .

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

The main effect has been on my general outlook and
motivation . I would have been much more ambitious in the worldly sense had
I not encountered them . In times of crisis they have given me the ability to
handle my reactions and feelings by seeing myself as an ingredient of the
crisis rather than on the receiving end of it .

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

You are only conditioned by the teachings , if they are
allowed to generate conclusions rather insights from
moment to moment .There is also a subtle risk in some
people of becoming fundamentalist i.e. if K said something ,
it cannot be challenged . If K did not say something , then
nobody should say it .

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

A thinker of his stature is born about once in 500 years so he is exceptional.
The teachings have been out there about 80 years -not a bad trial
period .They have had considerable success in influencing people but very little
in transforming them . The question is how do you make the teachings
teachable .

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

The principle of doubt and free enquiry is the very essence of
the teachings ; "ready acceptance " is therefore "out" .So the
question is wrong .

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

All plus membership of a group .

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

The questioner is more important than the question .The problem solver is
the problem .Do not seek salvation ;seek the facts of the present moment .

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

Yes but it is work in progress .

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

I am not happy with the phrasing of the question . You are not required to believe
anything so why talk of plausibility ? Neither are you required to accept anything .If you were to ask what the greatest weakness of the teachings is I would say it
is that it seems to throw out the baby with the bath water . What people want is salvation and survival beyond physical death . They want self improvement not
annihilation .

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

Either or both .

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

There is no reason why a checklist of challenging questions could not be drawn up which could be addressed to the mind and the psychological response
observed .One needs ways to increase the frequency and intensity of
self discovery .

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Thursday, 29 October, 2015

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Thu, 05 Jan 2012, 2:35am

hello, read your profile summary, and just wanted to comment. i really do think he answers this. actually, he does, but it isn't in what he says, it's in the actual living of it.

when we say "why bother", that is the self that wants something to achieve. when the fact is seen without motive, which is an insight into the whole working of motive, then the whole conflict behind the question disappears.

if there is any point, it's that so many people are unnecessarily suffering, and are unable to understand what is going on, because there is something stopping them from listening.