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Wed, 21 Oct 2009 #1
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 19 posts in this forum Offline

How to initiate this proposal for an award of Nobel prize for Peace to Sri. J.K. Let us prepare the ground for it. One day this is going to come true.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 #2
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 19 posts in this forum Offline

This one thing we are doing very promptly. Throwing out JK. is that not the following. It is not out of the anguish there are no participants to this topic.
How easily we say we dont need a guru. iam just asking if JK were not there if we would have realised to this extent.

gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 #3
Thumb_patricia_may_2014_reduced_ Patricia Hemingway Australia 23 posts in this forum Offline

ganesan balachandran wrote:
How to initiate this proposal for an award of Nobel prize for Peace to Sri. J.K. Let us prepare the ground for it. One day this is going to come true. gb

K never required approval from the deemed 'authorities' of his day. (Just witness how he tried to secrete away and leave behind on a table the award the UN presented to him - have you seen that?)

I suspect - while it may make his 'followers' happy and reinforced in their 'quest' - a Nobel peace prize is neither here nor there to the teaching - nor to the truth itself.

What use is an award presented by a generally corrupt society to a human being who constantly questioned the whole of corruption?

The desire for such an award implies that truth needs the approval of society - it does not. Society does however need truth! But awards will not bring that about.

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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 #4
Thumb_readytoloadup_correction Krishnan Srinivasan Denmark 322 posts in this forum Offline

Thanks Patricia for letting us know how JK responded to the UN prize/certificate whatever hullabullo... This Nobel Prize iself is soaked in murderous blood shed by millions... after all the Swedish manufacurer of ammunition and bombs, how it could match a gentle soul that walked this Earth as JKrishnamurti, I ask.... It is irrelevant to contemplate such silly awards...in "my" little humble opinion.Only empty persons need recognition- In Tamil we have a saying: only empty jars make noise, the fully filled ones remain quiet...-

Life is like the tamarind fruit bound in its shell

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Wed, 04 Nov 2009 #5
Thumb_patricia_may_2014_reduced_ Patricia Hemingway Australia 23 posts in this forum Offline

When the UN presented K with a peace prize - some little statue I think it was - he held it behind his back and then sidled back and slipped it on to a table just before he left the room. Some official saw it there a picked it up and hurried off after K as though K had forgotten something really important!

Says it all really Krishnan! :)

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Thu, 05 Nov 2009 #6
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 19 posts in this forum Offline

Krishnan Srinivasan wrote:
Thanks Patricia for letting us know how JK responded to the UN prize/certificate

Thank you Patricia for the information. There is a need to understand JK with ourselves first and also we have a comitment to inseminate his teachings or propagate. This will become easier if he is awarded nobel prize, and if you can suggest some thing else in lieu of it , it is most welcome.

gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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Thu, 05 Nov 2009 #7
Thumb_patricia_may_2014_reduced_ Patricia Hemingway Australia 23 posts in this forum Offline

ganesan balachandran wrote:
There is a need to understand JK with ourselves first and also we have a comitment to inseminate his teachings or propagate. This will become easier if he is awarded nobel prize

Our commitment is to discover and understand quietly and in stillness the truth of the human condition.

Please explain how anyone who would be 'suitably impressed' because K wins a Nobel Peace Prize has even begun to lay the ground for such a serious inquiry into the whole of human corruption.

As K himself said - the teaching is only for the few. Many others will hang around on the edges, trying to fit what he said with their own ideas, beliefs, and their overall sense of importance, and then blame K because it does not/cannot compute.

To consider trying to turn the teaching into a popular movement supported by various prizes and world authorities would seem to be a completely erroneous direction.

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Thu, 05 Nov 2009 #8
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 19 posts in this forum Offline

Patricia Hemingway wrote:
To consider trying to turn the teaching into a popular movement...

Not as a movement, but like the Krishnamurty foundations and forum like this do.
very few people know who jk is and what his teachings are even in India, but the recent Nobel winners many know and even their contributions.Dont you think atleast his contributions for peace deserves it?

gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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Thu, 05 Nov 2009 #9
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 19 posts in this forum Offline

Patricia Hemingway wrote:
Our commitment is to discover

even this is not our commitment!

Here I saw your highest form eager for nourishment in the place of the cow.(the sun in the sky, the illumination in the mind etc..).As soon as a mortal gets the food that you enjoy, the great devourer of plants awaken him.

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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Thu, 05 Nov 2009 #10
Thumb_avatar Paul Lanzon United Kingdom 24 posts in this forum Offline

ganesan balachandran wrote:
Thank you Patricia for the information. There is a need to understand JK with ourselves first and also we have a comitment to inseminate his teachings or propagate. This will become easier if he is awarded nobel prize, and if you can suggest some thing else in lieu of it , it is most welcome

Hallo Ganesan,

Hope it's ok to chip in here. I must agree with Patricia in this matter; after all, what is the point of reducing K's significance by putting him on the same level as, for example, Willem De Klerk, The Intergovermental Panel on Climate Change, or The International Atomic Energy Agency? If K were to become known through this prize do you really think people would seriously look at his teachings?

Anyhow, the whole business of awards (or rewards) is a part of that dualistic delerium which is at the root of all our problems. You award some and punish others. Nothing could be more absurd than a prize for peace; it reveals the incurability of human vanity. Sorry to sound so unhelpful.

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Fri, 06 Nov 2009 #11
Thumb_tampura ganesan balachandran India 19 posts in this forum Offline

Thank you Sri. Paul, Let us elevate the image of nobel prize...Let us wait for some more opinion and I will close up this topic.
gb

We are watching, not waiting, not expecting anything to happen but watching without end. JK

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