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What K teachings are central for you?


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Fri, 11 Jan 2019 #31
Thumb_screenshot_20180710-010635 One Self United States 1185 posts in this forum Offline

Understanding brings its own transformation. And for understanding there has to be a quiet mind.

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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 #32
Thumb_001 Sean Hen Spain 842 posts in this forum Offline

idiot ? wrote:
Only if you bring all your being to right now, which doesn't mean clenching up your body or something silly, but means total attention, can moment to moment transformation happen.

Yes, this seems very true. I think we need to accept that we are all human beings as was K , of course. This means that there are times when we will be insensitive, greedy and not listen. The crucial thing seems to be bringing awareness to the now and being fully present. If we do this, surely it will have an impact on how connected we are to the people around us.

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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 #33
Thumb_avatar idiot ? United States 641 posts in this forum Offline

Sean Hen wrote:
The crucial thing seems to be bringing awareness to the now and being fully present.

Yes. Then love may truly flower.

Well, bye for now. I'm going to see if I can stay out of here for a while. I wish everyone here the best.

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Sat, 12 Jan 2019 #34
Thumb_nolet Rich Nolet Canada 328 posts in this forum Offline

Yes, the flowering of love is what matter. All the best to you too.

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Tue, 15 Jan 2019 #35
Thumb_001 Sean Hen Spain 842 posts in this forum Offline

idiot ? wrote:
Yes. Then love may truly flower.

Well, bye for now. I'm going to see if I can stay out of here for a while. I wish everyone here the best.

A nice note to end on! Anyway, I hope it's "hasta luego" rather than "adiĆ³s".

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Thu, 17 Jan 2019 #36
Thumb_screenshot_20180710-010635 One Self United States 1185 posts in this forum Offline

What is the relationship between thought (the self ) and love? Is there any relationship between the two at all(Relationship means contact.)?

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Sat, 19 Jan 2019 #37
Thumb_avatar Peter Kesting United States 1228 posts in this forum Offline

"Love is where the self is not"

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Thu, 28 Feb 2019 #38
Thumb_screenshot_20180710-010635 One Self United States 1185 posts in this forum Offline

"What K teachings are central for you?"

As far as I know there is no central thing in the K's teachings . It is like entering into a great university . No deportment is better superior than the other departments.

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Mon, 10 Jun 2019 #39
Thumb_screenshot_20180710-010635 One Self United States 1185 posts in this forum Offline

"What K teachings are central for you?".

I say meditation is the center of k's teachings. Krishnamurti's mind was always in a state of meditation even while he was giving a public talk.

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Mon, 10 Jun 2019 #40
Thumb_avatar idiot ? United States 641 posts in this forum Offline

One Self wrote:
meditation is the center of k's teachings.

Yes. As I said at the start of this thread:

idiot ? wrote:
I'd answer: awareness of what is, real meditation, and love (which is approached negatively to discover what love is not). All of these are, in a way, the same thing approached from different angles. There is an unsayable that underlies K teaching, the sayable being understandable by thought.

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Mon, 10 Jun 2019 #41
Thumb_img_0244 Jack Pine United States 5607 posts in this forum Offline

So now the idea, the focus, the word for the week is: MEDITATION! I wonder what it will be next week. Why do you fragment what K has pointed out and then dwell on the fragments. Keep it whole, all together why not?

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Mon, 10 Jun 2019 #42
Thumb_em3 Ken D United States 29 posts in this forum Offline

"Whence should there be joy to a peaceless man?" Bhagavad Gita

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Tue, 11 Jun 2019 #43
Thumb_avatar idiot ? United States 641 posts in this forum Offline

In this thread, which got recently revived, I'm asking what K teachings are central for you. It should be mentioned that K was himself asked about the core of his teachings and he made a statement in 1980. You can read that statement here: https://www.dreamsalive.com/download/Krishnamur...

You will not find the word "meditation" mentioned even once in this statement. Does that mean that K didn't consider meditation central? If you look closely you will see that what K talks about in this "core" statement, especially near the end of it, is very much like what he says real meditation is. So you can decide for yourself.

Perhaps K felt that the word "meditation" was quite loaded. When he discussed it, he often negated common understandings of the word. For example, with regard to mantra meditation, he'd say that you might as well say "coca-cola" over and over. So in this brief "core" statement, there wasn't space to go into detail about what meditation is not.

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Tue, 11 Jun 2019 #44
Thumb_avatar idiot ? United States 641 posts in this forum Offline

Jack Pine wrote:
the word for the week is: MEDITATION!...Why do you fragment what K has pointed out and then dwell on the fragments.

Obviously meditation IS seeing the whole. Thought is the process of fragmentation. K says that real meditation is when there is no thinker/thought. Only then is there the whole, the unbounded.

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Wed, 12 Jun 2019 #45
Thumb_img_0244 Jack Pine United States 5607 posts in this forum Offline

idiot ? wrote:
In this thread, which got recently revived

It was revived by your alter ego, "one self". Otherwise I think it would have laid fallow.

Once again you are fragmenting the teachings by asking "What (which) K teachings are central to you?" The word "teachings" is plural, more than one. You are asking people to evaluate what they know or don't know about what K pointed out, categorize that knowledge and then pick their favorite. It's basically a meaningless question. It's something a bored primary school teacher would ask her pupils regarding some mundane subject.

So no matter how you choose to twist and turn to deny you are fragmenting the "teachings". Wholeness in everything seems to be what K was trying to point out.

This post was last updated by Jack Pine Wed, 12 Jun 2019.

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Thu, 13 Jun 2019 #46
Thumb_screenshot_20180710-010635 One Self United States 1185 posts in this forum Offline

If meditation is not the intention of the commentator then what is his intention? Strengthening the self? Creating more evil in the world?

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