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Thought process is limited and circular.


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Thu, 09 Nov 2017 #1
Thumb_img_0244 Jack Pine United States 4916 posts in this forum Offline

Mina, the problem seems to be that you are a victim of your own thought processes. You believe what you think instead of observing what you are thinking and realizing that "cause and effect" is all part of that thinking.

All thinking is conditioned. There is nothing wrong with conditioning in the physical/practical world. We rely on conditioning to drive a car, cook a meal, do our jobs and countless other things in order to live.

Psychological conditioning is the problem. Reacting to stimuli (coming to conclusions) based on our limited knowledge, experience, prejudices and so on (conditioning) keeps us bound to that conditioning. Thought, which is conditioned, ends not when we come to conclusions which we call "insights" or other labels we may give our thinking but when we no longer come to conclusions and simply observe.

The moment we label something, call a conclusion an insight for example, it is the past and is filed away in our memory as an ideal or belief.

It is a cool but beautiful morning here in Ojai and it is past time for my walk in the mountains. I hope you all are having a wonderful day.

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Wed, 15 Nov 2017 #2
Thumb_3740 richard head United States 248 posts in this forum Offline

Jack Pine wrote:
the problem seems to be that you are a victim of your own thought processes. You believe what you think

All those who do not believe what they think and are not trapped in the limited and circular nature of knowledge, please raise your hand.

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Thu, 16 Nov 2017 #3
Thumb_img_0244 Jack Pine United States 4916 posts in this forum Offline

richard head wrote:
All those who do not believe what they think and are not trapped in the limited and circular nature of knowledge, please raise your hand.

If a person did not realize this or understand this "believing in what you think" or seeing that thought is "circular and limited" then he could never see it in someone else. Do you have a point you would like to make Randall?

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Tue, 28 Nov 2017 #4
Thumb_3740 richard head United States 248 posts in this forum Offline

Jack Pine wrote:
Do you have a point

No point, I was simply expanding what you had posted.

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