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Forum: Insights Thu, 02 Jul 2009
Topic: Is insight only for selected few?

Does everyone has insight and only many do not understand it or only a few who see the truth have it?The other question is the insight is only for the egoless being?I feel there can be no answer to this and one has to see it for himself.Can we discuss about this?

Forum: Insights Sun, 12 Jul 2009
Topic: Is insight only for selected few?

So what is isight?We see any action from thought is not insight.Will we be aware when there is insight?.If "I' is there then it cannot be an insight.Then is insight unknown?

Forum: Insights Sat, 05 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

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Forum: Insights Mon, 07 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

max greene wrote: What is in the past is our consciousness. But are we only that which makes up our consciousness? Obviously not, because we are alive, now. That which knows consciousness, but is not of it, is of the now. Consciousness can never arrive at now because it is the past. It is memory

Forum: Insights Mon, 07 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

It is true cosciousness cannot arrive at now,as consciousness is past and hence we are not in the past.One has to see this.I am not telling by experince but it is.

Forum: Insights Mon, 07 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Thank you mr.Green

Forum: Insights Mon, 07 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

nick carter wrote: The problem is that we are not aware of anything else, any other "way" of being and seeing. And we know logically, that if there is another mode of perception, its distinguishing characteristic has to be that the past doesn't figure into it at all; that it has to be immediate, total, and content-free I think if there is a way then it is a thought saying it.I think there is no way.Only what one could do is to watch this thought and in that watching ( if the watching is intense ) there is a possibility for the I who is watching to disappear along with the watching.

Forum: Insights Tue, 08 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Holding to an image of oneself I think is a fact in all of us.I think we all mostly have image of himself.The same thing of attachment.

Forum: Insights Tue, 08 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Holding to an image of oneself I think is a fact in all of us.I think we all mostly have image of himself.The same thing of attachment.

Forum: Insights Tue, 08 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Mr.kaul it is true we do not know anything about ourselves that is about the self.But as you say about the individual self we know. Mr.Geo geo.Is it possible to look at consciousness as a whole.The apparent light and reflection all are unclear to my mind.Will you be able to further about this.Thank you.

Forum: Insights Thu, 10 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

What K spoke or what p is saying is not speculation.I think we know that enquirer cannot speak anything.If we say or speak anything it is the thought.This I think we know from this discussion. The is stunned and stops discussing.In other words it becomes silent.

Forum: Insights Fri, 11 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

I wish to invite the attention of all who are taking part in this discussion to todays kinfonet quote 'K says Religion is not the search for truth,Religion is the uncovering of reality.'

Forum: Insights Fri, 11 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

My views. Ideas are knowledge.Knowledge is memory. Memory is past.Past is known.We go on coming back. Are we speculating on what K meant.K was very clear so that every one who knew only little english also can understand. About life we have to experience,we have to come to it.I think no one can say what is the end.K did not say about it.When false living drops something unknown comes into being.This is what one speculates.Speculation is thought idea and so on.

Forum: Insights Sun, 13 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Paul Dimmock wrote: I'm suggesting that in enquiry there is no reward. There is only endless enquiry. A reward means an ending, a conclusion; it means finding the treasure and stopping there. But there is no treasure to find. Unless one picks up the treasure at the very beginning and enquires from there, the whole thing becomes a game with a reward at the end of it.

Endless enquiry is by whom sir.Is the"I"still there.Is it not sir.Who enquires.I am not trying to be clever.

Forum: Insights Sun, 13 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

If there is no enquirer and there is only enquiry who is the one who enquires.but K also has spoken about it.This was near the end of K's life.I cannot reember where I read this.Most probably last book of Mary Lutyens.K asks"At the end is there nothing" and says You all inquire.

Forum: Insights Mon, 14 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Paul Dimmock wrote: But will you listen to it? And for how long will you listen? How long does a confused mind listen to clarity? Does it listen at all?

Yes sir.Listening to the end is not easy.Always the mind chatters,or thinks of other problems simutaneously,or disturbed by others around or by others problems or the mind is wandering.Even one sits in a place alone the mind is filled with no space.It is very very difficult to listen to the end.K aways say even one goes to the jungle he carries a big burden.Can there be a method to listen to the end?

Forum: Insights Mon, 14 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Paul Dimmock wrote: But this does all relate back to our original question of a mind that is free of ideas. We can only label ourselves - as guilty, confused, lazy, greedy, et cetera - if we have an idea of the opposite, of what we should be. Now can we live without any 'should be'?

My earlier queston of listening ithink comes into this post of yours.My question poses an idea that I should listen to the end.If this ideas drops I think "I" drops.Let it happen sir.

Forum: Insights Wed, 16 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Paul Dimmock wrote:

Therefore can the ego go right to the end of itself? Can the selfish entity go to the core of its selfishness? Or, having heard a thousand other voices saying, 'Don't be selfish', does it hold back somewhat, saying, 'It's wrong to be selfish'? Therefore it never gets at the root of the matter.

We see that we are selfish at the moment of its appearance or at alittle time later.Also selfishness disappear as soon as we see or little later.But it appears at another instance. So it appears and disappears when we are aware.This happens often. But I do not know whether it is possible for selfishness to disappear entirely out of one. My experience so many years after listening to K is seeng being selfish and disappearing soon only is now.I mean the interval of being selfish and its disappearance slowly increased by years.

Forum: Insights Thu, 24 Sep 2009
Topic: Honestly

To be as I am,to stay as you are. Even thease statements are ideas. Any statement is an idea.If I answer it is an idea. to want,to be ambitious to know truth is ambition.We say one must be aware.This too is a wish.A wish is thought which is where ego is set to work,Not to want anything is also thought. One has to be totally aware of all these.Even this statement is thought. The question by Mr.Paul "Is there something that's not tied to me,yet I can see it?The I that can see it is is thought.

Forum: Insights Sat, 26 Sep 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Awareness is present is alright.But in general who is aware?It is the"I"who is aware.But who is "I"?'I' is thought.When;'I' is not then there is awareness.: "I" can only be aware of the past.I think we cannot call it awareness.It is only watchfulness.Living in the present is to watch the mind not to move away.This is what I think.

Forum: Insights Sun, 27 Sep 2009
Topic: Honestly

nick carter wrote: Where did Paul say this? I don't recall reading it and it doesn't sound like him.

I am sorry Mr.Nick Carter.Mr.Paul had only said "what are we"I have only taken a context from his post.The balance in my post is mine.But unfortunately my post has come with my little context from Mr.Pauls post.

Please read the post of Mr.Paul's of 26th September.

I hope others who read my post will take notice of my error.That is Mr.Paul questioned 'What are we."and the balance is my reply. I regret for misleading.

Forum: Insights Sun, 27 Sep 2009
Topic: Honestly

Paul Dimmock wrote: So what are we?

I don't think anyone who are in this forum can answer this as we are only worried of our present position. The answers given by me and others for your posts are merely to confirm that that we know.We are neither humble nor free of greed.We can surmise but these too are from knowledge.The knowledge gathered from the teachings of ancient sages,Buddha, Jesus,and other teachers of old or from what Krishnaji have said.Krishnaji had only put this question but had asked us to find out.K also has said "it is not who am I or all that nonsense",but find out 'what am I'.

Is it possible for us to find out sir,till "I" is there,or at least say what it is?

Forum: Insights Sun, 27 Sep 2009
Topic: Honestly

It has no solution.So I have to remain with what I know in the present without any movement.Then there might be a revalation or not.

Forum: Insights Sat, 03 Oct 2009
Topic: Honestly

We know that word is the thinker from the teachings of Krishnaji,not only as knowledge but also from understsnding.But why is that the mind is unable to look at itself without the movement of the word?

Forum: Insights Sun, 04 Oct 2009
Topic: Honestly

nick carter wrote: My "daily life" is a kind of Hell. How's yours

Don't name sir.

Forum: Insights Mon, 05 Oct 2009
Topic: Honestly

nick carter wrote: My Hell is that I'm the one giving orders.

Why should one call giving orders hell.If it is in your work place it might be the position you are holding.Also why are you naming it as order.I am not advising you.From the entries you make in this forum you look inelligent.

Forum: Insights Wed, 07 Oct 2009
Topic: Honestly

Is not the demand for freedom because one cannot live without freedom a desire?

Forum: Insights Thu, 08 Oct 2009
Topic: Can one's mind be totally empty of ideas?

Ben Dasher wrote: A mind cannot be empty of ideas, because a mind is an idea.....

I think the mind is the container of ideas.If the cotainer is empty of ideas the mind might be there but empty of ideas,or it might be possible the mind also disappears.

Forum: Insights Fri, 09 Oct 2009
Topic: Desire

ganesan balachandran wrote: will it mean one is destined to have this habbit and destined to have this habbit withering away.Many times I too have wondered is there need to end habit. Thank you gb

I think habit has to end.It must end.Krishnaji has explained about habit.IWhat he has said is not in my mind now.Any how it is one of the main point to see truth.One is not sensitive to beauty suffering and so on is due to habit.