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Forum: The answer my friend is blowing in the wind Wed, 07 Oct 2009
Topic: Is there any love in this world ?

I was just wandering if the true love is something to be possibly found in this society. Monkeys trully love their children (they also already flew to space) , but that doesn't count, I'm talking about the human society.

Forum: The answer my friend is blowing in the wind Wed, 07 Oct 2009
Topic: School experience around the world

In France, we bring kids to school to wipe off any love trace since they're 3 year old. It's already not so much left when they're such old. Any kid which will not fit the mould will be considered as bean brain, trouble maker, and likely to become à bank robber (some politics thinks about police file about unsuccessfull schoolboys). I already feel the emergency to move away and I'm far not rich enough to afford Woodbrook.

Does anybody get a better experience with his country ?

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 11 Jan 2011
Topic: Noam Chomsky

Are anybody familiar with Chomsky's work ? I'm currently asking myself what is the importance of mass media in the current situation, say the total lack of wisdom in the western world, europe and USA. This lack of wisdom is a good opportunity for powerfull people to develop even more their ego but it not the point of the discussion. I wrote to Mr Chomsky to ask him if he's familiar with K's work. He kindly answer my email.

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 14 Jan 2011
Topic: Noam Chomsky

Eve Goodmon wrote: no one could be more further apart in many aspects especially in regards to the solutions for the mess we are in

I precisely got the same idea. Anybody interested in reading my correspondance can send me a private message.

You get me wrong, Max.

When I talk about propaganda, I'm talking about people working for media, WTO or banks, economist, politics, business man... All these people promote in their way neoliberalism. Propaganda is a subtil way of twisting the truth to manufacture consent from the mass in a democraty. One exemple : In France, you may have heard about huge protests against a new retirement law increasing the retirement age(october 2010). The media continuously promote how the striking bother transportation users, create mess. Almost everyday, the media report that the people action is getting weaker and weaker. It actually lasted many weeks and millions of people walk on the street. This law is trully unfair for many reasons (that I will not develop here) but media try to present it as a reasonable necessity. Few economist promote alternative way to this law, but their voice almost found no echo in the classical media.

K's work is the opposite of propaganda. Like Chomsky, he wants to explain to the mass what he understood because he think that will help in some way.

On that context, I do believe K's mission is now getting even harder.

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 19 Jan 2011
Topic: Noam Chomsky

aurelien B wrote: I've been interested into Chomsky's work regarding linguistics (though i difficutly read books because of lack of concentration -quite young but damaged brain

You can watch the french spoken DVD "Chomsky et Compagnie". You can listen Daniel Mermet on the radio (France Inter 15h00-16h00 or http://www.la-bas.org). You will understand how propaganda actually works very well in our societies (France, western europe, USA, and so on). You will see how all this business is another source of pain for almost everybody. You can send me e-mails (in french) if you want more informations.

I don't think you can only focus on your own troubles (I believe K also didn't believe it), you have to spent some energy to understand the world. I also believe that you cannot remove the old, you can only put something new, better and bigger.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 20 Jan 2011
Topic: Does one know why they are participating in this forum?

That is a very good topic.

I registered very early in the new Kinfonet, but I usually never go to the forum, I only read the daily quote. I'm here today because I wanted to introduce Chomsky to the forum. So, well, I'm here, why not take a quick look... All the topics are interesting in some kind of way, but getting in such kind of discussion will obvioulsy not help me at all. Kinfonet is one of the few places you may find a shoulder, a kind understanding from others when you work on yourself on the K way, but I don't need that anymore. I understand why I went there before, and the following action has been to stop.

On the other hand, spending time with friends also interested in K is a very refreshing experience.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 20 Jan 2011
Topic: Does one know why they are participating in this forum?

Eve Goodmon wrote: It seems that tolerance and kindness is a much more common attribute in the East than in the West. Something that the West can learn from Eastern cultures, is to find a way of communicating disagreements without being abusive and cynical.

In France, in the street unofficial diccionary, when you describe somebody as "kind", it actually means "stupid".

Can you see how hard is the way out.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 20 Jan 2011
Topic: Does one know why they are participating in this forum?

Eve Goodmon wrote: One of the things living in Asia taught me was patience and the ability to to be stupid....:) The idiot.

Don't get me wrong, I totally disagree the statement kind = stupid. Enjoy asia and never make the same mistake as me (coming back to the western world)...

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 13 Feb 2011
Topic: Noam Chomsky

Paul Davidson wrote: I read Chomsky many years back, both his political and linguistic theories. He is a dry man with a heap of inner bitterness, safe in academia to thrust a pointed finger out at the powers to be. An odd person with little charm. I was a co-speaker with him at a meeting in Boston in 2001, speaking about Cuba.

It seems that I triggered a lot of anger, can you spent it in another place ?

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 13 Feb 2011
Topic: Noam Chomsky

Paul Davidson wrote: If one were to want a rough comparison:

Dear Paul,

I don't want your rough comparisons and your biterness about past conflicts. Who want to compare K with Chomsky, you don't think it is just silly! I don't think you can feel anything about that, but the way you show, anything useful you can say would be covered by the wall of agressity you put around yourself. In this situation, who want to listen to your understanding about K, you just show you understand nothing at all... I'm not better than you, but at least I pretend nothing, I'm still with my ego.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 13 Feb 2011
Topic: Noam Chomsky

Paul Davidson wrote: Well, perhaps the lady assumes too much here. No, Francois, I expressed no anger here.

The lady... No anger... You cannot see yourself at all...

Waste of time

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 23 Nov 2011
Topic: Craonne Song

Anybody heard about that Craonne Song?

It was the illegal hymn of French soldiers during WWI. It was written in 1917 after the french HQ ordered a military operation that killed 15 000 french soldier per day during 10 days. That numbers are forgotten in the collective memory.

I heard a radio Programm talking about that song. This program (La bas si j'y suis) from Daniel Mermet is still a bright spike in the feet of the french 'Murdock like"media empire. This program made me cry. Some French soldiers were forced to shoot their own camarade to let them really know what it's like to be a soldier and to obbey. How powerfull people can almost trigger a war to clear its own population that was not needed anymore after the first industrialisation of the western world is an ugly thing. It is not something you talk about like uglyness of war that is not encountered anymore nowadays. It is something about the human being, the same again and again.

Any way, In this program, there was a clever message from a belgium auditor, full of K's wisdom. I was wandering if I may met with this wize guy here.

The song was illegal in France till 1974 ! If you can unerstand French, dont miss it

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 23 Nov 2011
Topic: Love...What is it?

Love is what's left after you peal off any defense system. You will almost never see that, like the core of Hearth. If you get the chance to see it, it will just burn off from the weight of you eyes unless you are also pure love

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 23 Nov 2011
Topic: Craonne Song

Dan Mohad Dib wrote: only Charles de gaulle as we see now but too late in my views had some "intelligence" , if there is any in politics

Dear friend,

Forget about that last hope in politics. The great Charles ordered a massive and bloody repression against algerian peaceful striking in the 60th.

Dan Mohad Dib wrote: .I am sorry to say that we globally accept all that blindly because indeed I think we have the same motivations as the elites, we are the elites and they are us...

Another unconveniant truth

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 23 Nov 2011
Topic: Craonne Song

Thanks so much for the translation Dan ;o) I checked the link. I read and hear so much about the history of capitalism, it's amazing how we can still learn something new. It is important to share such kind of information. Did you heard about "Money as a debt", "we feed the world", "let's make money". We do accept the situation because we pick up our little share. Maybe not the right place to keep going... Anyway, A warm feeling for those who actually suffer from our blindness. Hope we can one day share a pint of guinness together.

François

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 06 Dec 2011
Topic: Craonne Song

Peng Shu Tse wrote: In the East, Free France does not have the same democratic veneration it enjoys in the West.

That veneration is also gone in France.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 08 Dec 2011
Topic: Craonne Song

Peng Shu Tse wrote: Oh good . . . but what does France venerate now?

I can only talk for myself. I venerate nobody and nothing, even though I suffer from an uncotrolled fascination for flight (birds and planes). maybe the illusion of more freedom ;o). The French average conditionning obviously include the superiority of rooted local values and traditions. That his probably the same everywhere. It may be more in France, who can tell ? On the good side, there is a true tradition of working class hero, but that in obvioulsy another illusion of freedom.

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