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Forum: A Quiet Space Sun, 26 Feb 2017
Topic: Is this not real love in absolute freedom? ...

At night the room was very dark and the wide window showed the whole southern sky, and into this room one night came - with a great deal of fluttering - a bird. Turning on the light and getting out of bed one saw it under the bed. It was an owl. It was about a foot-and-a-half high with extremely wide big eyes and a fearsome beak. We gazed at each other quite close, a few feet apart. It was frightened by the light and the closeness of a human being. We looked at each other without blinking for quite a while, and it never lost its height and its fierce dignity. You could see the cruel claws the light feathers and the wings tightly held against the body. One would have liked to touch it, stroke it, but it would not have allowed that. So presently the light was turned out and for some time there was quietness in the room. Soon there was a fluttering of the wings - you could feel the air against your face - and the owl had gone out of the window. It never came again -- J.KonLine Daily Quote Archive » Meditation is not an escape from the world

How many times we touch the other, in its multiple ways, without that deep feeling that only love has, to know if the other wants to be touched or not, by us? ... How many times we have such a respect for the other with our hearts resting calm and loving when the other doesn't want us to touch him or her in its multiple ways? ... How many times we feel happy hearing the wings of the other fluttering and going out of the window without knowing if he or she will come back again? ...

How many times we really love the other(s) along the day?

Forum: A Quiet Space Wed, 01 Mar 2017
Topic: Have you ever loved beyond imagination? ...

Have you ever loved beyond imagination? Have you ever faced the challenge put there by your thought? Have you ever abandoned yourselves to life without the slightest resistance? Have you ever felt that there's nothing to love there and yet love everything? Have you ever emptied yourselves of that love and yet love?

How can someone talk about love, then?!

Juan 01.03.2017 (22:31 Spanish time)

Forum: A Quiet Space Mon, 06 Mar 2017
Topic: Life is ...

Life is total insecurity and vulnerability, but we want it secure and protected, that's why all the conflict and our dying imagining that we have loved when we have not

Wake up this morning with that in the mind/heart

7:20 in the morning (Spanish time) Time to go working Have a nice day you all!

Forum: A Quiet Space Wed, 08 Mar 2017
Topic: Sadness about the International Women's Day ...

As everybody seems to be silent here i will break that silence with my noise ...

Does not make you (in general) feel sad to hear everyone talking about the importance of today, international day of women? ... Personally i feel really sad! ... Do we really need a day a year to remember anything, from cancer to women, from hunger to love, or whatever else? ... Human being is utterly lost if it needs a day a year to remember love!

Forum: A Quiet Space Mon, 20 Mar 2017
Topic: International Day of Happiness ...

Today has been the Int.Day of Happiness, which brought about the following questions in me ...

Can there be happiness without a deep understanding of unhappiness? If not, what happiness have we lived then before we die? If yes, why bother at all about consciousness, thought and all the rest, then? And in any case, what does it really mean "a deep understanding of unhappiness?

Listening to your feelings!

Forum: A Quiet Space Sat, 08 Apr 2017
Topic: Who am i? ...

Can we look at that question without absolutely none of the answers others have given to it, or we are too much conditioned by any of those answers (no matter who gave them) to do so?

Could we go on from here or this is too much difficult (almost impossible)?

Forum: A Quiet Space Sat, 24 Jun 2017
Topic: Anger (or What does it mean investigate?) ...

I have decided to start a new thread making a verbatim copy of the last three post in Mina's thread "A question to Olive to be shared with all..." as they not belong there never more and because i find that the discussion is worth to have its own thread.

(allow me some time to copy the posts)

Forum: A Quiet Space Sat, 02 Sep 2017
Topic: I felt to share this with you ...

I begin this morning looking for texts/pdfs by Albert the Great (the teacher of Thomas Aquinas) and from one page to another eventualy i discovered this docummentary i felt to share with you ...

Forgive me if it is an off-topic of any kind, and of course, feel free to delete it if it is so, Clive

The Internet's Own Boy (The Story of Aaron Swartz)

Forum: A Quiet Space Sun, 01 Oct 2017
Topic: "Je me demande..." (it was "Tom said...")

I've found this comment on a YouTube video about the police violence on sunday 1 October here...

Je me demande qu'est-ce qui ce passe dans la tête du policier quand il rentre chez lui le soir? Comment fait-il pour ''dealer'' avec ça psychologiquement?


I wonder what happens in the head of the policeman when he gets home in the evening? How does he deal with this psychologically?

Forum: A Quiet Space Sun, 29 Oct 2017
Topic: An open letter to you all (answering a Mina's PM) ...

I've seen just today that Mina sent me a PM few days ago asking me with great friendship what was keeping me away from participating in the forum ... And i must say that i started writing her a PM, but after some minutes writing i thought to my self to share my answer not only with her, but also publicly in the forum with you all ... So here it is, for you to share also, if you want, your thoughts/feelings/perceptions openly about my words, no only with me but also with many others here and all those who decided to remain in the back just listening ...

Only allow me to say one thing about that sharing ... I decided to do that NOT TO TALK neither about Catalonia, nor Spain, nor whatever related to this conflict, i just decided to do so because this forum is a place where we talk about the conflicts in human beings which has only one color, not multiple colors ... So, i hope you to respect my decision.


Hi Mina!

Sorry for the delay in answering you, but my absence in the forum (and so in watching my PMs there too) has nothing to do with the forum ... I live in Catalonia and we are living a difficult process here this days (as you maybe has heard in the media) ...

So i spend my time participating in other forums (i.e.: mainly whatsapp and in my daily living with people i met in my daily rounds with letters and parcels), and i can tell you it is quite intense (more or less the same intensity we share in the forum ;-) as the same is here than there ...

There are many things one can observe, things one share due to those observations with others, but there's no listening, or better said, there's a listening but it's a biassed listening, in the way that people wants you to be on one side or the other ... Most of the human beings do not accept someone walking free alone without a fix view, pointing contradictions in either sides, not to dismiss one or the other, but to go deep into the living reality we all are living.

One can observe how people believe anything their leaders (of whatever kind) tell them without any questioning, and you and i know that without questioning none can see neither the contradictions in the leaders they follow, much less in oneself ... and without seen that, conflict is invited to be there all the time.

But i must say also that despite that i have had very deep and interesting conversations with some friends of mine, which of course doesn't mean anything because although they can observe the contradictions (their own, and others) during the conversation, after that the mind usually goes back to the cherished old pattern quite easy ... which is made obvious when i receive the next whatsapp they send me after some minutes from the conversation we have had.

So, everybody's talking always about the truth as one of those leaders is doing right now before thousands of people that need to believe in that truth without any questioning ... because if they question it, even just a little, they would realize how the words "love", "democracy", "respect", and so on are used in vain, just as mere convenience and interest of those who put them in their dirty mouths.

So, let me end this letter with the words of a Pope that show all that:

"Man can in no wise be counted among the Children of God unless they take Christ Jesus as their Brother and, at the same time, the Church as their Mother".


Pope Leo XIII

How many Christians do you think questioned "Who are you to talk in the name of God", "Who are you to tell who's children of this or that father?", "Who are you to condemn this or that child to a fatherless life because not following your BIASSED HUMAN premises?" ...

We are lost in a lost world as The Moody Blues sung in early 70's. Now, would you be so kind to dry my tears? ... Because i'm crying.

Forum: A Quiet Space Mon, 05 Feb 2018
Topic: Braking News!

Wall Street is falling down more than 4%, and there are other stock markets around American continent that are closing in the red too because that (Argentina, Brazil, ...) ... We'll see what happens!

Forum: A Quiet Space Mon, 26 Feb 2018
Topic: What is the actual relationship between an external dialog and a "journey into oneself" which by definition is "individual"?

Dan McDermott wrote: That is the 'machinery of thought': I'm feeling bad and I want to feel good again. So as I see it, the journey for us is into oneself, to discover the source of the discontent and the resultant violence, anger, hate,etc. and understand it totally.

Yes, that's how i see it also ... But i would like to know (if you don't mind), how do you relate that "individual journey to discover the source of all conflicts in oneself" with a "journey together" as K used to offer at the beginning of any of his talks or dialogues ...

I.E.: What is the actual role of a dialogue with another with regard to a journey into oneself? ... Is that external dialogue necessary for that journey into oneself to take place? ... If one actually discards whatever others may have said about that journey into oneself, is external dialog necessary? ... Can the lack of dialogue be equated to the lack of relationship, or one thing has nothing to do with the other?

Don't know if you get what i mean, but all these questions about what is the actual relation between an external dialog and a journey into oneself which by definition is "individual", have arisen in observing deeply what you say (which is also as i see it, as i've already said before).

I ignore completely if there has been any inquiry into the actual meaning of an external dialogue before in this forum, but i would like to inquiry deeply into all the implications of an external dialog with regard to that "journey into oneself", that by definition is not a "journey together" but an "individual journey".

So i'm not denying external dialog at all, it's only that i would like to inquiry if, having one actually discarded whatever explanations others may have given about this journey into oneself, the deep observation of this words: "I'm feeling bad and I want to feel good again", do need of an external dialog, and if it is so, what are then the total implications with regard to a journey that by definition is not a "journey together" but an "individual journey".

Anyone willing to go into it?

Forum: A Quiet Space Thu, 01 Mar 2018
Topic: Stillness

Wim Opdam wrote:

Juan E wrote: Once upon a time ... There were two young monks and their old master that were walking together one day when they arrived to a river shore.

Since time memorial there are people who repeat the same story untold times, this may indicate a form of reprimand, education , lack of creativity or dementia and may be there are other reasons too.

Not being neither a reprimand, nor having myself any intention to educate anyone, we only have left that it may be either due to a lack of creativity, or to dementia ... So discarding totally the possibility of a lack of creativity, i would say it is more like dementia ... In fact in recent weeks it seems that I have often forgotten who I am talking to when writing in this forum.

So yes, it's definitely dementia!

Therefore, thanks a lot to all those who, like you, have helped me in the last weeks to find the right diagnosis.

Wim Opdam wrote: But it is as the Quote of today: I can give you nothing

Me neither ... I mean, neither to you nor to anyone here.

Take care Wim! ... This "demented person" has decided to leave definitely, ... so that you (and probably others) may feel better "at home" here.

Forum: A Quiet Space Thu, 01 Mar 2018
Topic: Goodbye ALL! ...

Wim Opdam wrote:

Juan E wrote: Once upon a time ... There were two young monks and their old master that were walking together one day when they arrived to a river shore.

Since time memorial there are people who repeat the same story untold times, this may indicate a form of reprimand, education , lack of creativity or dementia and may be there are other reasons too.

Not being neither a reprimand, nor having myself any intention to educate anyone, we only have left that it may be either due to a lack of creativity, or to dementia ... So discarding totally the possibility of a lack of creativity, i would say it is more like dementia ... In fact in recent weeks it seems that I have often forgotten who I am talking to when writing in this forum.

So yes, it's definitely dementia!

Therefore, thanks a lot to all those who have helped me in the last weeks to find the right diagnosis.

Wim Opdam wrote: But it is as the Quote of today: I can give you nothing

Me neither ... I mean, neither to you nor to anyone here.

Take care all! ... This "demented person" has decided to leave definitely, ... so that some may feel better "at home" here.

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