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Forum: General Discussion Fri, 20 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

On the contrary I think that krishnamurti was able to convey what he was talking about to his audiences very efficiently . .

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 20 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Society is the relationship between people. When this relationship is based on greed or mutual gratification or mere usage then the usage or gratification becomes the main thing so decay sets in. Where as if relationship is based on self - revelation then there is constant learning instead of decay.Dont you think so?

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 20 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

And we are the product of many things, climate , religion, economics, and so on. We are the product of the food we eat , we are not food itself.Some people are influence by the society that they live in more than others.

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 21 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

When relationship becomes a mirror for self-revelation or discovery then there is possibility of change or freedom from thought and that freedom from the self is in constant learning.

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 21 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Jack Pine wrote: "Do you know the difference between learning and attentiveness? Do you know these things you are saying for yourself or are you just repeating what K has said? Most of us are in the latter group."J

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 21 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

I am not sure if you have been following this thread carefully, that is why you ask such question that has vague answers.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 22 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Jack Pine wrote: Do you know these things you are saying for yourself or are you just repeating what K has said?

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 22 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

That is the question that I referred to which is vague. The answer is obviously not repeating K. And if you think otherwise then you should examine your own thought and see if it is fake or real.

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 23 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Going back to the main question of this blog ,what is silence? We looked at the literal or dictionary meaning of the word which is being quiet. We discovered that thought always moves faster than what is therefore conflict. Now the question is can thought be quiet and not jump ahead of what is so that there is no conflicts between what is and what should be?

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 24 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Jack Pine wrote: When does one stop thinking about silence and is silence?

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 24 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

It is up to you. How words dominate your mind. No one can help you on that.

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 24 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Jack Pine wrote: Yes, but I'm not the one seemingly obsessed with discussing "silence"

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 24 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Then what on earth are you doing in this blog, telling what to do or not to do?

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 24 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

I Don't understand why some people think that they can tell others directly or indirectly what to do or not to do when they are conditioned and confused themselves. .

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 24 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Silence is the most important thing in life. Without it we become violent and aggressive. Maybe one of the main reason that humans are so violent is lack of silence. Noise is everywhere. And as the human population increases so as the noise. In silence all problems are resolved..

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 24 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

First of all You seem to have an argumentative personality and I don't argue with you . Secondly my mind is not conditioned by propaganda and lies,I don't belong to any group or organization. It is petty that someone be conditioned by this nation or that nation and have a tribal mind after studying krishnamurti for years. I write what I write and your negation of what i say according to your take doesn't do a thing. Because you can't go into what you say yourself in detail . You just repeat yourself superficially.

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 25 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Jack Pine wrote: "Are you aware of your conditioning." Why are you defensive about that?

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 25 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

What do you mean by we are conditioned? Forget krishnamurti ,what do you mean? Merely saying that we are conditioned is just another label . The word condition in dictionary has specific meaning. And what krishnamurti said about conditioning takes a lifetime to study. But you are not krishnamurti and when you repeat a word(conditioned) over and over it is your responsibility to clarify yourself independent of krishnamurti or anyone else. Don't you think?

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 26 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Influence means what? Means I want something and influences help me to arrive , does it not?

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 26 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Jayaraj Kapila Kulasinghe wrote: Oh, wait that's one meaning.I mean I've heard somebody saying something & my thinking got influenced.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 26 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Is that our conditioning, the influence of words?

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Thought being the response of memory to a challenge is always fragmentary and insufficient. And we are conditioned by this fragmentary thought. Now silence is not thought or a product of thought. Silence is intelligence but we are conditioned to act and react from thought therefore always lack intelligence. .

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

If we discover why our mind is so attached to knowledge and thought may be then we can free the mind from the traps of thought ..

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

"Real freedom is not something to be acquired, it is the outcome of intelligence. You cannot go out and buy freedom in the market. You cannot get it by reading a book, or by listening to someone talk. Freedom comes with intelligence.

But what is intelligence? Can there be intelligence when there is fear, or when the mind is conditioned? When your mind is prejudiced, or when you think you are a marvelous human being, or when you are very ambitious and want to climb the ladder of success, worldly or spiritual, can there be intelligence? When you are concerned about yourself, when you follow or worship somebody, can there be intelligence? Surely, intelligence comes when you understand and break away from all this stupidity. So you have to set about it; and the first thing is to be aware that your mind is not free. You have to observe how your mind is bound by all these things, and then there is the beginning of intelligence, which brings freedom. You have to find the answer for yourself. What is the use of someone else being free when you are not, or of someone else having food when you are hungry?

To be creative, which is to have real initiative, there must be freedom; and for freedom there must be intelligence. So you have to inquire and find out what is preventing intelligence. You have to investigate life, you have to question social values, everything, and not accept anything because you are frightened." ~ J.K.

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

If I say I am thought then that is the end , I remain as thought till I die.

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

But if I say that I am not merely thought or a remembrance then maybe things change . But once I identify myself with a dead thing (like thought) what happens?

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

But if I say that I am not merely thought or a remembrance then maybe things change . But once I identify myself with a dead thing (like thought) what happens?

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

When we say "I", what do we mean by that word?

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 27 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

There is

Goodman B wrote: When we say "I", what do we mean by that word? There is an " I" that is merely a language thing for example ,I am cooking dinner,or I have cold. That I is not the conditioning. But there is an I which identifies with things and ideas people like my wife or my country or my religion which sets the ground for conditioning and blindness.

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 30 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

We have been considering conditioning, what it is and and how a conditioned mind is limited therefore lives in conflict and sorrow all the time. Now the question that comes is that what is the factor of de- conditioning? We know that the factor of conditioning is thought. What is de-conditioning?