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Forum: General Discussion Thu, 29 Mar 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Now the question is that we who have been involved with these things (because of k's teachings) for years why are we not free from image maker which is thought? We are hurt human beings.

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 30 Mar 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

what is it that is hurt? is it the brain or it is thought thinking in term of comparison ? Surely thought is hurt not the physical brain.

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 31 Mar 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Why do people compare? Because it is a habit. Because they are conditioned to compete . there are many reasons why people compare .But what is important is not to compare . comparison is mediocrity ( Psychologically speaking).

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 31 Mar 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

we said that it is thought that is hurt or gets hurt or hurts . the brain doesn't hurt or get hurt. that much is clear, but how thought the image maker creates pain? ..through comparison. comparing oneself with someone else or comparing oneself with when was younger and stronger or healthier and so on. .why thought does this comparison at all is the question . is it because thought seeks power, I don't know. . why does thought do this?

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 01 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

If one is concerned with understanding thought ,not negate thought or accept thought but concerned with the understanding of thought, how it comes into being how it operates and how it fades away. Then what is one to do?

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 03 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

I think that the idea of self as a centre that directs things is a modern one. People were much more selfless about fifty years ago in the sixties. We are confronted with a modern problem of the self which is made by thought. We see how destructive the self is in the politics. Our problem is to be free from the self or thought or image maker which breeds fear is it not?

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 04 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

The fact of the matter is that thought or the self seperates. Thought separates life into the past and the present and the future. Thought divides everything as "me" and "none me" . Thought divides . Now we question that . Is there security in division? Can duality solve any problem?

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 07 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Thought has to work efficiently in the daily life. This efficiency is not possible when there is duality as the doer and the doing or the thinker and his thought. Our problem is not thought but it is the duality that thought creates. Is it not fear/pleasure thing that sustains the duality. Duality is a distortion in the human mind. A distortion that is imposed by parents and education and propaganda and religions. One has to shed all dualities to be able to see for oneself ..no?

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 09 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Okay , we are not here to show off who is more clever or more intelligent. We are sharing our main problem . Our main problem as we agreed upon is duality. The word dual means two, not one.Oneness means no duality. Plus duality means a gap, a space between the observer and the observed. Does it not?

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 10 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Do you have an image of silence based on your conditioning and on reading what K has said about "silence"? Is silence a "thing" to be discussed intellectually and endlessly?

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 10 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

You can't imagine silence because it has no shape . But we can surely discuss it as we have been doing.

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 10 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Is duality a truth? That is we say 'I am Muslim' & another 'I am Buddhist'. Now is this a fact, a truth? Or simply 'I' & 'You'. Duality exists only in the mind. Nature has no duality. Thought is the creator of duality or conflict.

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 10 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Is duality a truth? That is we say 'I am Muslim' & another 'I am Buddhist'. Now is this a fact, a truth? Or simply 'I' & 'You'. Duality exists only in the mind. Nature has no duality. Thought is the creator of duality or conflict.

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 10 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Is duality a truth? That is we say 'I am Muslim' & another 'I am Buddhist'. Now is this a fact, a truth? Or simply 'I' & 'You'. Duality exists only in the mind. Nature has no duality. Thought is the creator of duality or conflict.

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 10 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Is duality a truth? That is we say 'I am Muslim' & another 'I am Buddhist'. Now is this a fact, a truth? Or simply 'I' & 'You'. Duality exists only in the mind. Nature has no duality. Thought is the creator of duality or conflict.

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 11 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

" Is that what K. was doing all those years of "discussing"? Just "rearranging the furniture and decorating the walls of his prison and imagining that he was free"?"-d Why don't you find out for yourself instead of asking us to tell you what krishnamurti did or did not. I wouldn't accept any opinion about K.

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 11 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

K: There must be freedom, and freedom comes only when you understand the whole problem of envy, greed, ambition, and the desire for power. It is freedom from those things that allows the extraordinary thing called character to flower. Such a man has compassion, he knows what it is to love -not the man who merely repeats a lot of words about morality.So the flowering of goodness does not lie within society, because society in itself is always corrupt. Only the man who understands the whole structure and process of society, and is freeing himself from it, has character, and he alone can flower in goodness. - Krishnamurti, J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life #JidduKrishnamurti #compassion #quote #wisdom #Philosophy #religious

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 11 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

" Is that what K. was doing all those years of "discussing"? Just "rearranging the furniture and decorating the walls of his prison and imagining that he was free"?"-d No, k was not doing what you sugested. Your question is a wrong one.

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 11 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Jack Pine wrote: Let's stay on topic. I'll ask again. How can you discuss silence if thought is not a part of silence?

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 11 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

I don't know how serious you are with regard to k's teachings. When you say that he was in a prison you have already denied the teachings. He discussed silence a thousand times . It is time that we do something and not make silence into something unreachable. Without silence there cannot be any understanding.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 12 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

To understand thought or consciousness or conditioning there has to be first silence . the mind that is jumping all over the place is incapable of understanding it's own conditioning. That is clear to me.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 12 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

It seems that someone(Mr D-) which was ashamed of what he wrote " Is that what K. was doing all those years of "discussing"? Just "rearranging the furniture and decorating the walls of his prison and imagining that he was free"?"-d Mr D- deleted his silly question and jack responded for him. And I thought J- was D- and so on, Hahaha...

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 12 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

If you watch yourself you will see that we are anxious to turn everything into duality. Some how we are brainwashed to compare . through comparison we think we understand things. But is that true? Can I understand myself through comparison? Obviously duality or comparison prevents self-understanding ..

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 14 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

I posted earlier the root meaning of the word silence which is to be quiet. To understand anything one has to be quiet first and listen not bring his noise into the understanding of the thing. I think that is fairly simple to understand that the mind has to be quiet in order to observe discover learn or understand. Apparently some of us give spiritual meaning to silence which possibly comes from their backgrounds. But to me silence is a must.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 15 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Sorry, I have been having a case of sinus infection for the whole past week. So I was not able to answer to the questions. What is for sure is that there cannot be a technique or pattern to make the mind quiet . Because a system is born out of thought and is mechanical and won't lead to stillness of the mind. The mind becomes quiet when it is deeply interested in something. There is no how to become interested in self -knowledge or freedom is there?

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 18 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

It really doesn't matter what society does because society is always corrupt. What is important is that one keeps the flame of discontent alive . the flame is withered away when society is considered as noble and something to be supported like the communist do. One is responsible to keep the flame of discontent alive and burning. So that everything that thought has created is wiped out. Casual negation is not negation, it is merely intellectual persuasion, Is it not?

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 18 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

It really doesn't matter what society does because society is always corrupt. What is important is that one keeps the flame of discontent alive . the flame is withered away when society is considered as noble and something to be supported like the communist do. One is responsible to keep the flame of discontent alive and burning. So that everything that thought has created is wiped out. Casual negation is not negation, it is merely intellectual persuasion, Is it not?

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 18 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Thought seeks power through many things. Thought creates the ego or the self or a centre that is assumed to be permanent. Nature or universe has no centre but thought invents the self as an idea. Society is based on the idea of the self. thought creates the idea for power therefore society and thought are corrupt. Thought is the self -image maker and it does it for security. But can there be security in an image?

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 19 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Society is not us. We are the product of the rotten society. The rotten society has existed for generations before us . We like the way society is set up because we know how to maneuver in it. Thought the creator of the images is the root of corruption .

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 19 Apr 2018
Topic: What is silence? Is it static or it changes it's qualities all the time?

Society is not us. We are the product of the rotten society. The rotten society has existed for generations before us . We like the way society is set up because we know how to maneuver in it. Thought the creator of the images is the root of corruption .