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Forum: General Discussion Sun, 15 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

'Love'.Do you think that there is love(by love here i mean the love that Krinhsnamurti talked about,not the one which we generally refer) in the relationships which are formed by mere illusions.Well it may look like love,act like love or feel like love but it is not love.Human mind cannot grasp love and it cannot create love.But it can create something opposite to 'hate','dislike','selfishness','greed' etc which looks very similar to love but not the love which Krinsnamurti talked about.Now one may ask where is this love for He have said that it exist.Well this love just calls you when you are ready for it.It will attract you and you will be inclined to it.Then on will begin a whole process of balancing.Once you are balanced it will come to you in a way which it thinks will suit you.But the fact is you cannot choose it,it will choose you.I know it is disappointing but that's how it is.

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 16 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

There was a time when TRUTH assembled all the souls before sending them to the earth.They were showed the earth,to which a good number of them ran towards it.Then they were showed the heaven again to which a good number of them ran towards it.Then they were showed the hell,to which again a good number of them ran away from it.But amongst all them there were some who did not react to any of what TRUTH have showed to them.To this the TRUTH ask why did not they react.They replied that they do not desire any of what TRUTH showed but all they desire is to be with TRUTH.But it won't be easy for you all to be with ME.It will take a lot of hardship which you all cannot even imagine,TRUTH said.But the souls insist that's what they want and they are verily willing to surrender to whatever hardship TRUTH holds for them.

Now i know to which group i belong,do you?

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 16 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

Don't worry my devil is in total harmony with the angel.Actually they are so very fond of each other that whenever one is in a lesser condition,the other one immediately does away with his share of the greater.

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 17 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

When there is harmony and balance only one exist but when there is conflict and chaos then only more than one exist.Have you lived the whole circle.I mean have you been the whore as well as the saint.

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 18 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

ha ha ha People like us don't live by morality.We don't want the angel by discarding the devil or we neither we want the devil by discarding the angel.We see what you see not for we are the balanced,

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 26 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

Burning is fine.But i would go for the another alternative,like telling the devil that i know u r right when it comes to your activities but since i do have an angel to look after also and i do need to keep the balance,so at times i might not agree with but this in no way means that i do not respect you.i guess this will make him understand and he will be fine with it as long as i give him his share of love and care and do not feel being ignored.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 29 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

TRUE

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 31 Aug 2010
Topic: My Daily Dialogue With Krishnamurti

Being tolerant is a great virtue.When one is tolerant it is a great thing but being tolerant is not just enough.With it there must be acceptance too.I do see tolerant people around me but when it comes to a deeper analysis,i see them still complaining.So though one may be tolerant but one is also silently complaining.Say for instance when i am on bus on with others and we happen to be on a traffic jam,i see some people complaining about the lack of administration,some saying how things could be better with their own little inputs and others just tolerating but silently complaining in their own usual way.Only if they knew how is it like to have a 10 day traffic jam(in china) instead of a 10 to 15 minutes.We all just wants to be keep moving.No one seems to have any time to just stay and stare.Since all r moving,we also want to keep moving.Well Moving is a truth and I do not deny it but so does Still is also a truth.We just seem to be content with one aspect. Now coming back to being tolerant.Suppose someone hits u and u don't react to his action but simply move away.There might be 2 reasons.Either u r physically not equitable to him or her and thereby complaining to God for making u this weak might just move away or u say i believe in non-violence and thereby i am tolerant.So i forgive him.Or there might be an another scenario,U might hit back thinking that violence begets violence.Ur hitting back might bring about severe consequence to the other guy so much so that later on u might have to regret thinking that u could have done with being a lesser violent.With it he/she might begin to feel guilty now.He/she thinks his/her was wrong.The pain creeps in his/her heart and remains with him/her till the balance catch him.Now talking of the other non-violent fellow.He/she goes home with the bruises and attend it with the first aids.Then he/she relaxes in the and ponder over the whole issue.He/she begin to think how noble he/she was and gets very happy.But in the midst of all this he/she fails to acknowledge that pride creeps in him.well with some people who r in a higher level of tolerance pride might evade him/her.But not so dignity.It has to come this is the last torn of the ego.And when it comes in the disguise of the evil he/she fails to realize it and we all know what happens when roles r changed.i mean when we allow the devil to do the works of the angel.Its sure going to be all mess mess nothing but mess. Now both the violent as well as the non-violent guy/gal r right in their actions at the time being.The violent one later realises the gravity of his wrong afterward which again is right at the time being.For this he gets the imbalance and have to wait till he/she regains it.But the non-violent guy/gal goes astray and HU save him :). Now there might be one section of people who would have acted in a different manner.1st scene if he/she finds out that he/she not physically equitable and thereby humbly accepting the fact goes away from the scene.2nd scene he/she humbly accepting that violence begets violence thereby no worth of being fighting back goes away without carrying any burden with him except for the bruises:).3rd scene accepting that he/she deserves a fitting reply to action of hitting,he/she hits back to the extent which he/she thinks fit.Be it light or life threatening.In all the cases the acceptance is there and hence the balance remains.

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 31 Aug 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

There was a time and there will be a time.We are all dwelling in the midst of these two times whereby forgetting that there is just a time.We call ourselves living while the truth is that we just lived and will be just living.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 02 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

Every bit of thought is an illusion.To use thought(illusion)to understand another thought(illusion)is a never ending process.The human mind will never be able to understand INFINITY or else it will become finite.So the least we can is to submit to the INFINITY.But to INFINITY,it does not matter whether we submit or not because we have no other option.The sooner we learn,the better for us.K realized it and hence submitted and thereby also got accepted.It was when he got accepted,everything changed for him.He got rid of duality and got himself embodied into UNITY,which he call the TRUTH.He denied all the philosophies,dogmas,theories because he came to know all these stuffs deals with duality.Duality is an illusion,UNITY is the real.He stopped asking or say praying because he came to know the underlying essence of life which is 'We are just the doing,not the doer'.He also done away with morality.There was no more right or wrong for him.For him there is only thanking and remembrance.Blessed were u 'K'.

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 03 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

Well Paul if you can done away with the mistakes and see the real instead of the image,then you are BLESSED.As Jesus said 'You have to die before death to really see what lies beyond to what you see now.

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 04 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

Well if there can be a 'K' so there can be a Jesus.As far as the origin of the words are concerned I lay no emphasis to it because I care for the words not for the time when it was spoken.Relevance is the key for me.I read it somewhere,I liked it or say I understood it then I accepted it and finally agreed to it.Now that was all per my ability of my understanding.I know I am right but not the expense of you being wrong.You are no less or no more right than me.I do accept but I might not agree to it.

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 04 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

Points taken Paul.Thank you

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 04 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

First let's 'K' get one century old if not two.Now coming back to your reply,I am not here to make a point of I being right or you being wrong.As I said,I know I am right but not at the expense of you being wrong.I made a statement to which you do not agree.That's fine.I accepted it,but I agree not to it.This is simply called learning to live with the differences.As far as the proof is concerned,I am just here to express myself,not to create any theories or disciplines.Thank you

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 04 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

Am i being so difficult for YOU.If it is all about being hurt,pain,agony then how come YOU know not ,the same can be true for me too.But then i do know that to seek YOU I must humbly accept whatever YOU bring forth to me.Long before I made this choice and now there is no going back.But as and when i get to realize what it is to be like when I am with YOU,everything else ceases..All that remain is LOVE.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 05 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

To seek YOU here is implied to seek one's BELOVED.Now it depends on each individual as to his/her BELOVED is.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 05 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

YOU burn ME,I do not complain.Because I do know when YOU can burn ME, YOU can heal ME too. YOUR Healing is ever so worthwhile to YOUR burning.So I say to YOU burn me,burn me till I am exhausted.And when I am Exhausted I am no more.And when I am no more then I am in YOU and YOU are in ME.Hence I get to reside in YOU and YOU get to reside in me which is our destiny

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 05 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

What is real and what is fantasy.When I can think of real,I can also equally think of fantasy.I see as much of real in fantasy as i do see as much of fantasy in real.So for me there is no real or no fantasy.There is just 'be' for me.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 05 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

Yes there is just 'be' and when there is just 'be',then there is no more what 'to be' and what 'not to be,

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 06 Sep 2010
Topic: Unstoppable thought

You said thoughts are taking a flight in to the fantasy,Why can't this very state of yours be a state of just 'being' for that very moment of yours.Our thoughts are very much a part of our 'being'. And this can be true for every bit of our illusions too.As i have learned that every bit of thought is an illusion too and hence every illusion is very much a part of my 'being' so,why deny it.You are waiting for the end to come naturally but for me there isn't any beginning so there is no waiting for the end.Thank you

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 06 Sep 2010
Topic: Humanity Seperate From Nature

Everything was perfect,everything is perfect and everything will be perfect.

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 06 Sep 2010
Topic: Humanity Seperate From Nature

The planet of LOVE

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 06 Sep 2010
Topic: Humanity Seperate From Nature

Well sir I also do see here people gathering the past(i mean the statistics from the past)then doing all forms of calculation in the present to predict a future.I do not judge them for they are doing what they are ought to do.But to say it in simple words I call it fear of the unknown.I consider myself lucky for I know I got rid of that fear.Hence for me everything is perfect.The past,the present and the future.Thank you

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 08 Sep 2010
Topic: Why are you seeking at all?

We were seeking,we are seeking and we will be seeking until and unless we are done away with duality.

Forum: General Discussion Wed, 08 Sep 2010
Topic: Why are you seeking at all?

I was seeking.

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 09 Sep 2010
Topic: Why are you seeking at all?

That was for generalisation.Furthermore the 'we' I mentioned is only for the people who call themselves as seeking,so don't take it for whole of humanity.As far as particular me is concerned I am done seeking for I have done with duality.Thank you

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 09 Sep 2010
Topic: Why are you seeking at all?

The others whom i call the 'Known' are seeking the truth whom i call the 'Knower'.The others whom i can also call 'Duality' seeking the truth which i can also call as the 'Unity' Now as far me knowing what others are seeking is precisely the same reason for you not knowing what others are seeking and the reason being 'Conditioned' both you and I.Thank you

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 13 Sep 2010
Topic: Why are you seeking at all?

Well if that is what you meant by seeking then I guess my understanding of seeking is not what is yours.I call the seeking of material wealth or hope of a good life hereafter in the form of heaven more or less as wants rather than seeking.So in that case my explanation of seeking does fit.I withdraw my statements.But as far as the wants are concerned I find them absolutely rational.It is found in the lower beings such as animals like territorial security,sexual security etc.But we humans can pursue them in a rational way because of our rationality.

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