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Forum: General Discussion Thu, 08 Apr 2010
Topic: We think we need the presence of Jiddu in this world to understand and live the new state of Mutation of the Mind?

Angel Miolan wrote: I feel your mind touch the boundarys of the unknown

Where is boundry sir?

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 08 Apr 2010
Topic: WHAT IS TEACHING OF K

Todays quoting is about love and image.It is true even on K forum. We have created image of others. We are expecting from them a particular frameworked response. And mostly we are getting responses in a patent manner. We have grading. We have comparision, we have liking and disliking.So it is same world.so it is same me.I want to remain same. I like this all 'I said', 'you said'.I am addicted of it.I am interested in known, because I believe that known devil is better than unknown god.Unknown can't attract me, You give me K's teaching or real K himself, I will convert everything in image..

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 08 Apr 2010
Topic: We think we need the presence of Jiddu in this world to understand and live the new state of Mutation of the Mind?

Angel Miolan wrote: What I try to said was refer to a mind that fell the nearness of emptiness in a state of Observation

Sir,

In physical world there are nearness and farness, so we apply same thing on that thing, the truth or whatever. But sir, there are not steps, so one is either there or not. there not a such thing possible, like more near to truth or on the border line. It is as I feel/

Forum: General Discussion Thu, 08 Apr 2010
Topic: WHAT IS TEACHING OF K

Paul Davidson wrote: But isn't it also that sometimes we wake up?

Is it so? Paul, actually we don't know what exactly is that 'wake up'?

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 09 Apr 2010
Topic: What is Self-Knowledge??

Grace Full wrote: So my first question is What is Self Knowledge and how can we attain that and why it is so important?

Grace Full wrote: Which is the first book to read as a beginner?? I havent read any book by JK so far.

Why you want to read K? For self knowledge? K can't give it? To get help to attain self knowledge? Again K can't help in this matter. You have already some theory, now by reading him you will replace it with another one.

Whatever K discovered, he discovered from self enquery, He don't get help from books.

Your first question can't be replied by other, as it indicates, it is related to self, how other can know about your self?

Yes If you are interested in some intellectual entertainment, then you are welcome on K forum, and you may start from the book, first available to you

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 09 Apr 2010
Topic: WHAT IS TEACHING OF K

Randal Shacklett wrote: What is all this other jibber-jabber that takes many paragraphes to explain?

right, It is waste of energy, electrycity, keyboard..:). Well, how you passed time, in the period of disappearance?

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 09 Apr 2010
Topic: What is Self-Knowledge??

Grace Full wrote: If so why can't every one is succeed on their own way

Do you know anyone who tried by his own way and failed, On the contrary we always looks for guideline, It is failure in first step.

Grace Full wrote: why these forums

I don't created it, so s'd be asked from creater.

Grace Full wrote: Is he still alive??

No, a grammer mistake, please read it 'didn't'.

Grace Full wrote:

whats the main intention of K by delivering all those discussions.

Ok, if you want to know why he delievered all discussion, then read him completely, he claryfied at many time about it.

Grace Full wrote: Is just an intellectual entertainment

Do you think it is a Diploma programm on self realisation, results of discusion shows what does actualy it is?

Grace Full wrote: Give a straight answer for my question

According to me it is straight answer,but you are going to decide what is straight answer according to you. Thanks for reading my all stupidity.

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 09 Apr 2010
Topic: What is Self-Knowledge??

Probably You have read a fun sms on mobile, in which sender continuously says please don't read this, I have written nothing in it, but we read it completely, and he repeats this line till end.

Same thing is with K's saying, He from starts speaks that he is not authority, don't follow him, don't accept him, but we are following, we refer his saying as authority.

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 09 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

Paul Davidson wrote: so much more important to see the same in oneself - and then do different. Otherwise it's all a bit chest-thumping, unfortunately.

well said!

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 09 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

Chafia Abdi wrote: Persons are very calculating, they cannot imagine that you are just being attentive without purpose. There is so much more resistance from persons. I feel they are locked, emotionnally dead inside. Am i living in a strange town?

Oh! C, there is need of Krishnamurthypuram for you, I love you and surprised why you always think about others

Forum: General Discussion Fri, 09 Apr 2010
Topic: WHAT IS TEACHING OF K

The one who knows does not know; he can know only his own prejudices, his self-projected beliefs and sensory demands. He cannot know truth, the immeasurable. position and authority can be built up, cunningly cultivated, but not humility. Virtue gives freedom; but cultivated humility is not virtue, it is mere sensation and therefore harmful and destructive; it is a bondage, to be broken again and again.

It is from today's qoute. Now is there anyone who Knows? :-)

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 10 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

Chafia Abdi wrote: Is it serious Doctor

C, my point is why are you concerned about other's shortcomings? We are in this world, with these people, it is a fact, we can't change it. Whatever we have to do or not do, we are bond to do here, among these people, these are common factor for all, either for you or for K.

Chafia Abdi wrote: I am sure that I am heavily conditionned by islam

Thank you for your self observation. I have shared room for three years with a dear friend Suleman Gauri, but I shared heart for forever. That time I read Koran, Hadishes. We shared common feeling about all religions, A truth lost in heap of words, though we have not read K that time.

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 10 Apr 2010
Topic: We think we need the presence of Jiddu in this world to understand and live the new state of Mutation of the Mind?

Angel Miolan wrote: At any rate I share with you the concern about the preservation of the purity of the Message of JK

Thank you sir

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 10 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

Thank you Rick sir.

Forum: General Discussion Sat, 10 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

RICK LEIN wrote: In the interest of preserving my self image,I must calculate,to feel secure,in that image.I am afraid,so I worry about it,you know me,myself,and I.After all one must have a plan of action,calculated in advance,to preserve protect and defend myself image!

Yes sir, this is what is, a fact.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 11 Apr 2010
Topic: WHAT IS TEACHING OF K

ganesan balachandran wrote: Even if there are they wont tell

gb sir, K is/was saying,- one who knows doesnot know, then where is question of telling, If someone knows and don't tell it than he is liar, not realised, but K is saying one who feels that he knows, doesn't know.Thank you for having interest.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 11 Apr 2010
Topic: What is Self-Knowledge??

Patricia Hemingway wrote: To be honest - I didn't believe it would be too long before your return.

Oh! still same, on this side of river, imagination still working, a complete failure..

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 11 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

Randal Shacklett wrote: Krishnamurti-ites.

Can we call it Krishnamurtism? If it is a correct word. Sometimes I feel we have many things common with dogs, we love to followerships, we love to lick foots, barking is our habit, we always needs master..and many others.

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 11 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

RICK LEIN wrote: Words are just words sir,why make it a personal problem?

Sir, Some may take personal and other may not, so if someone getting irritated, then it may be good not to show mirror, it is my view, I may be wrong

Forum: General Discussion Sun, 11 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

thank you, sir

Generally we human being find very difficult to understand very simple truth, probably we fail to understand because of it's very simplicity, we expect that truth should be very complicated and according our expectation we makes very complicated theories about it, and we miss it, a thing which can't be understood through intelligency.

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 12 Apr 2010
Topic: WHAT IS TEACHING OF K

Chafia Abdi wrote: You, are you "purified

Hi C, fast are not for purification, they are main part of naturopathy.

Chafia Abdi wrote: Not only food I hope, all the pleasures, sex, the forum, food, and all other pleasures;o

Inspite of it, he was being better prepared for all pleasures, sex, sex, sex..:)

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 12 Apr 2010
Topic: DISCONTENTED

Chafia Abdi wrote: I can describe the darkeness in which I am. But I cannot describe light, I can imagine it, hope it, but not live it

yes, facing the now.

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 12 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

Randal Shacklett wrote: Getting irritated is a form of bullying. One does it to modify the behaviors of others. If I don't like what you are saying, I get irritated so that you will stop.

You are right.Generally my mind produces stupid ideas, It seems it is defective, I was also thinking, who am I to suggest anything to such an understood person, but Rick is very humble, so I thank him.

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 12 Apr 2010
Topic: The intellect will not solve your problems

daniel moru wrote: it is more a work on ourselves (not a discovery!) and we have to find out how our brain/ego part in use can be kept under "control" of goodness. then the brain/ego is not under its own control,

Hi Daniel,

It is good to hear you.Your writtings in above post shows you are seriously working on brain, inquiring seriously. It is really rare thing.

You said there may be a good silent part of brain.And may not any good part.I mean brain may be hiding that universal goodness. As you said once this ego is ended, this goodness may be felt.Possibly Brain has nothing to do with that goodness, It is interfering with it's noise. Oh these all are just imagination..

I have read your writtings, will write about that sepperately.

With love

Forum: General Discussion Mon, 12 Apr 2010
Topic: WHAT IS TEACHING OF K

Mostly I use brain, in an easygoing life, when life is moving in smooth road, I am using brain as intellectual entertainment. whether it is k forum or else, there are nothing deeper. All are very shallow, dry words.

Rarely a deep restlessness appears, A restlesness which is not a bit interested in brain, in thoughts, in words, in discussion, in mental entertainment. When it is, all worldly things appears hollow, of no means. That time there is no attraction for J krishnamurthy and his teachings, or for any other religion.This restlessness is lovely

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 13 Apr 2010
Topic: DISCONTENTED

Randal Shacklett wrote: ....it shows they have no clue

Yes, And to show this there is need of presence of you on K forum:)

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 13 Apr 2010
Topic: The Last Post

Hi Paul,

You are a good writer, seriosly you may write good books, You have quality of expressions, you may apply it. And probably you are a good teacher, because you feel good to explain subject, so one should do the things, which are natural for him.

This forum is not suitable for writers, because generally the persons who are interested in K are intellectual, understanding of K's teaching generally starts from logical minds, so therte are less possibility of acceptance of theories, sharp critisism can not be avoided here. So may be your decision a good decision, though we will miss a participant.

Best of luck

D

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 13 Apr 2010
Topic: The Last Post

there is a joke

Budha is dead, Christ has gone and even K has left us, nowadays my health is not good, so I am in tension who will take care of the whole world,:) and K forum (it is not situational, but I should write something so I written this)

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 13 Apr 2010
Topic: The Last Post

HA! HAA!! HAAA!!! ( because fool laughs three time)

Forum: General Discussion Tue, 13 Apr 2010
Topic: The Last Post

I forgot to say you thank you for joke, Thank you Chafiaji.