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Forum: Awareness in our world today Fri, 12 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Keshni Sahni wrote: The man who is completely alone in this way is innocent and it is this innocence that frees the mind from sorrow.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Fri, 12 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Innocency and aloneness go together to free the mind of its sorrow. Sorrow is attachment and suffering. Detachment frees the person of this bondage with sorrow.How this person functions in a day to day basis?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Fri, 12 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Robert Michael wrote: Therefore a body of people must be formed away from the beaten path, away from all the old, dark, corrupt, and dead structures, by a leader or teacher who has himself fully and without limitations attained to the light of the new consciousness and morality. Or we could say that he has overcome the world and all of its false, fallen, and destructive self-centered ways. And this adventure would most certainly be based on attraction rather than promotion which would be governed solely by the absolute truth of his knowledge and speech and the integrity of his actions and behaviors. Which will then deeply and positively infect the ever enlarging body of people that surrounds him. Though without any attachment or co-dependancy since all will be pure Spirit, which is beyond both the human and time. The old, existing, and irreparably corrupt structures and their constitutionally unchangeable human, all-too-human, multitudes who remain stuck in the old consciousness will then eventually bring about the collapse and demise of the old structures and themselves. While the body of those who could and did attain to that 'New Consciousness and Totally New Morality', that Krishnamurti spoke of, will find a place that will be unaffected by this necessary and natural grand cleansing of the planet or the 'abomination that maketh desolate', and will go on from there to carry the finally perfected and finished human species forward along with a new and healing earth. Bob M.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Fri, 12 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Dear Bob, I am totally fascinated by you projections for our future EARTH.Let us all hope for the "NEW CONSCIOUSNESS & TOTALLY NEW MORALITY" to come upon and heal the suffering EARTH!

Forum: I Am Not This.. Sat, 13 Jun 2009
Topic: 'This' Blocks The Clear Perception...
Manoj SachDeva wrote:

Dear Krishnan, are you saying that 'self' is conditioned. It is in the 'death' of conditioned self that the unconditioned, that is love, can exist? You are suggesting that in the readiness to drop 'the past', like tamarind fruit is ever ready to let go its body, the present is.

So, as the videoload of memory come up and threaten to hijack the present moment, the awareness of ''past'' and its being inappropriate in dealing with the present moment, let the ''old'' drop, like the body of tamarind.

Forum: I Am Not This.. Sat, 13 Jun 2009
Topic: 'This' Blocks The Clear Perception...

Self is an "Idea", A construct of this particular persons consciousness identifying as ones "self"/I. It is built up by blockls of conditioned experiences,mempries, actions&reactions,feelings,emotions etc. To go beyond the self one has to look constantly look at thios bondage that self wraps one up.To lose the self is to love. When one loses ones self one can be "other".or one can be aware of all things around ones ambience.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Krishnan Srinivasan wrote: since the populace everywhere from the bottom to the top seems to me to be hopelessly entrenched in the 'me', the 'ego', the 'great I', or 'bigshotism', if you wil

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

It is the collective consciousness of a nation or the characteristics of a group of people in a nation you are referring to. I have just watched the President-elect of IRAN talk tall about the glories of his Ntaion&civilization etc. These superiority born out of frustrated feelings of inferiority are what Jk would call as "action & reaction" responses! Whoever rules the lot of the common man is ponly SUFFERING!

Forum: I Am Not This.. Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Topic: 'This' Blocks The Clear Perception...

Manoj SachDeva wrote: You are saying when this idea of self is not, other is.. love is..

Forum: I Am Not This.. Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Topic: 'This' Blocks The Clear Perception...

When a couple have sexual activity, it is not uncommon to experience the loss of the "self" and that is why probably, (it is my guess), they crave more and more of the same. So any emotional or other experiences in the absence of the so-called "SELF" seems to be sought after as though it is "BLISS".One shall not hgunt after it but one has to become aware of the self operating in myriads of ways. In general, one should be in touch with the other/NATURE/GOD or whatever one term it, by casting aside the "SELF", that is my conjecture. I have some strange experiences in this regard as "OUT-OF_THE BODY-EXPERIENCES". Why to talk about it when I cannot command it at will or why to boast of it.Persons may find it strange. But in Indian religious history, there are countless anecdotes of this kind. a devotee merging with the OTHER in true person(with the body&mind/consciousness)-The town I was born has a humanbeing turned GODDESS- SRI ANDAL was a an orphan girl brought up by the Brahmin priest of the temple. She fell in love with the male God RENGAMANNAR and fancied him in devotion .She wrote poems in Tamil-Even today they are sung. She merged as ONE with the Deity at the temple.True love story. Still the temple for her exists even today. Her story belongs to the 8th century.In north they have MEERA, in south they have ANDAL-

Forum: I Am Not This.. Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Topic: 'This' Blocks The Clear Perception...

Manoj SachDeva wrote: There is awareness of the 'hunter' and that is self!

Forum: I Am Not This.. Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Topic: 'This' Blocks The Clear Perception...

very much so.All our seeking carries a rider. That is why we shall not seek but watch ourselves as we operate in this world. One may not be this and that but one does not have to"BECOME" (somebody or something, enlightenment or otherwise...)

Forum: I Am Not This.. Sun, 14 Jun 2009
Topic: 'This' Blocks The Clear Perception...

I just could not write a few more lines above so I continue here. Some blockage in the computer-system, presume.

The matter is the tamrind fruit is willing to shed its body,but are we? It is instinctively programmed to fall apart from its encsement/shell/body-but we are not.We fear DEATH immensely! As JK would put it, if one lives with DEATH nextdoor all the time,one is preapred like the TAMARIND.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Mon, 15 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

max greene wrote: What is meant by "non-attachment"?

max

Forum: Awareness in our world today Mon, 15 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Even though one lives inside a family, community, society, nation, continent etc, one is not attched to the persons, ideas, concepts, constructs such as nationalism. one is free inwardly in such a non-attachment-state.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Mon, 15 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Yes, words are formulated thoughts and hence dead wood.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Keshni Sahni wrote: But today some followers either go spiralling in heavy thought abstraction using his language or use it for some sophisticated form of spiritual entertainment.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

What you call spiritual entertainment or abstraction is an evaluation by you.I am not here to judge others but to participte in the ongoing discussions.Who am I to judge others when" I" cannot judge "myself"?

Forum: K's teachings - new or old? Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: New or old or strange&unique

JK`s teachings are new, can be identified in some parts as advaita and it is all strange and at the sametime unique in the sense it pokes the so-called-"individual"/"I".

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Dear Keshni Sahni, you tell me..

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Keshni Sahni wrote: Well. All I can say is there expectation-less action in non-attachment. As energy is not moving in circles / spirals, there is a tangential action - The word vitality becomes significant.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

Interesting this "vitality" concept. Such an action is like the one SRI KRISHNA adviced ARJUNA on the battlefield in Mahabhratha. Or, is it like the modern.day.anarchist-youth protesting for everything in the streets of Western-capitals, whos puberty is expressed in uncontrollable energy outbursts collectively in the open public?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

I donĀ“t know, you may explain to me.

Forum: K's teachings - new or old? Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: New or old or strange&unique

Jk said many things.Comparison is "measurement" and it leads to competition and striving to "become" Advaita is an age-old-tradition, in non-dual -state,so is Buddhism with its nothingness. Jk has some resemblances to these traditions and that may come across as an old wine in a new flask. Traditions and methods are not keys to open ones own mind and its complexities in relation to the GIGANTIC OUTER MIND,

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Robert Michael wrote: would suggest here that if one is to go "beyond their suffering" they must first go deeply into it. And just maybe that innate seed of love and truth may then burst forth.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Dear Bob, as you said above, we must anticipate this happening to individuals who then become the anchor of LOVE&TRUTH .

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Monic Devi wrote: don't think Krishnamurti would give advise to a politician

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Dear Monic Devi, I hope you have read the book of biography of JK by PUPUL JAYAKAR. If you have, there one comes across JK solving some dilemma faced by Indira Gandhi, the then primeminister of India, regarding the Sikh rebellion in Punjab. He seems to have said," you cannot get down from the tiger while riding it. Go all the way!" I dpo ot remember the exact wordings. So he seems to have foreseen many things about Indian Politics and advised when asked for...it seems.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?
Keshni Sahni wrote:

Consciousness is made up of five elements - Water, Sun, Space, Air and Earth. That's all there is. We filled it with thought instead of the earth. Thought has a place, but thought also has an ending. It takes birth in silence and falls back into silence. But we don't stop the thought/thinking process. There is continuity, without silence. There is no time or space to refill the consciousness with five elements because we are not empty

You will recieve the other when tbere is no space for thought or thinking.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 16 Jun 2009
Topic: Is it impossible to live with nonattachment in LIFE?

You five elements, are they different from the Hindu construct of PANCHABOODHAS? In one sense, your elements lack the "FIRE"or OXYGEN.