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Forum: Awareness in our world today Thu, 27 Aug 2009
Topic: The Monkey-business has started ....

Today in "Nature", (the scientific journal) is published about how two monkeys were born to three parents with two mothers contributing with a father, the DNA inheritance. By this means of manipulating the mitchondrial DNA, one can presume in future there are possiblities to eliminate/eradicate mitochondrial diseases in humans too. Grave risks in playing with the new technique among humans, we cannot foresee what would happen in the future.Progress in Science is alarming and where are those who talk about ethics here on the Earth?How do you react? Thank God Hitler is not available today....dead&gone... I thought....

Forum: K's teachings - new or old? Fri, 28 Aug 2009
Topic: New or old or strange&unique

Therese Okamoto wrote: do you really think so?

Forum: K's teachings - new or old? Fri, 28 Aug 2009
Topic: New or old or strange&unique

Yes.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sat, 29 Aug 2009
Topic: Organization per se is not the answer to human problems

Paul Lanzon wrote: Organizations are certainly not the answer to human problems; they are the result of human problems. The main problem being the misplacing of thought as the primary, most important factor in life, when it is only a secondary mechanism whose function it is to implement the insights of Intelligence and Compassion, and of course, to construct things that are useful to

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sat, 29 Aug 2009
Topic: Organization per se is not the answer to human problems

Very succintly put by you Paul. That is the crux of the problem We need to use thought ,but we must be, all the time watching how it functions inside the organizations. Things are not static,they change constantly, especially among human relationships inside organizations.There is a need for an "ombudsman" inside any organization.The same goes for an individual to watch his/her own thought, is it not, in terms of JK`s awareness?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sat, 29 Aug 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

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Greg Van Tongeren wrote: gv: Krishnan, may I ask why you say this was a great loss and when RM says it was perhaps actually a gain you immediately agree with that? Similarly you speak admirably of Obama but when RM says Obama and his efforts to bring about change are just more human delusion, you readily agree? Are you trying to avoid an argument or changing your opinion?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sat, 29 Aug 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Dear GREG VAN TONGEREN, thanks for pointing out what I have done consciously.I am aware of that. I do not know whether I agree with all the points made here by BOB(Robert Michael)but I do agree in general terms in line with the expositions he makes on JK lines.Sometimes he comes across as a "mystical" person with more insight&knowledge&experience than me.I am learning from him and about him.The points you made , though correct, are not intended to please or displeaseBOB.I am bringing a news item and trying to probe the AMERICAN MIND(they/you, are the insiders,&not me living outsideUSA)So, I have, no strong opinions on American politics ,because I am new, and inexperienced on this.I take up gladly confrontation with persons if i do not agree. I am here not to please or displease anyone.In general, friendliness helps the smooth flow of the dialogue.In that spirit, I might have overlooked or ignored some points.Anyway thanks for your pointer here. Regards. Krishnan

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sat, 29 Aug 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Greg Van Tongeren wrote: Do you see what Obama means in saying the perfect is the enemy of the good? The good is here and now. The perfect is just a figment of thought. The benediction is where you are

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sat, 29 Aug 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

emphasized text These are abstract concepts, like"God" But dear Greg, actuality is inequality,poverty, hidden agendas and self-promotion.Politics of any nation stinks.There is no sanity in it. Like an actor on a theatre scene appears and bound to disappear, BUSHES,OBAMAS and others would vanish from the scene but the human suffering would continue.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 30 Aug 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Thanks for the comments from Pollixinie Dristas & Katy Pompilis- for the descriptions, very personal stories, shared here with us all- I agree that being a vegetarian ,enhances the sensitivity of a person. In my personal experience,I am a born vegetarian(Brahmin caste from Tamil Nadu, India)but for a few years was compelled to eat meat-products owing to non-availability of vegetables and I found myself gross& very insensitive in my behavour due to that. After I had some out -of- the- body-experiences, I have totally given up eating meat,egg etc.I agree eating meat is a sort ofr cannibalism.Plants are also living things but animals are more close to humanbeings.Nowadays whenever I communicate with my dead elders through prayers at fullmoon days, it is essential that I am free from meat.So I have rejoined vegetarianism. Ones sensitivity is ensured and enhanced by being vegetarian in food habits. If you are interested, please read COLIN SPENCER:VEGETARIANISM,a history. PUBLISHED BY:FOUR WALLS EIGHT WINDOWS,NEW YORK ,LONDON. ISBN:1:56858-238-2(hc)

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 30 Aug 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Greg Van Tongeren wrote: That is so but less poverty here and now though not "perfect" is still good.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 30 Aug 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Dear Greg Van Tongeren, Yes.Robert Browning wrote in one of his peoms: "Broken arcs on Earth And Perfect Rounds in the Heaven!" I have no qualms about it because I surrender it all to the Unknown Will of Everything(one may call GOD).

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 30 Aug 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

david sharma wrote: Man is the only animal that broke his covenant with nature and animals. He only knows how to destroy and kill for pleasure. Nature is forever forgiving to man. How long?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 30 Aug 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Mankind has lost touch with its own nature and that is the chaos we are amidst at present.How can man live in harmony with NATURE? but then NAture gives mankind its feedbacks from time to time-such as pollutions, globalwarming etc.So man is a slow learner in communication with ther INTELLIGENCE that is prevalent in NATURE:

Forum: K's teachings - new or old? Mon, 31 Aug 2009
Topic: New or old or strange&unique

Dear Therese Okamoto, What has rationality got to do with Natures Order of things ? Your rationality resides only in your skull. The collective rationality of all skulls on this Earth has wrought more havoc to Nature and brought us into the state of eternal pollution, chaos in life`s relationships, wars, diseaseses, poverty,aggrandaisement and aggression. JUST BE QUIET&GIVE REST TO THE CONTNENTS OF YOUR SKULL!

Forum: Insights Mon, 31 Aug 2009
Topic: K and **UFO'S**

James Mc Donough wrote: WE ARE ALL COMING FROM THE SAME PAST AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE ALWAYS EXPRESSING..

Forum: Insights Mon, 31 Aug 2009
Topic: K and **UFO'S**

Now I understand why the scenes at the Theatre of Life are so boringly repetitive and dull---- coming from the same past

Forum: Awareness in our world today Tue, 01 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Hi Pollixenie Dristas,thanks for your post.It is interesting the fear of the unknown amighty Nature drove them to the religion for ther Inuits! Why to be in touch with Nature?. One is not in touch with ones "self" and one`s body for that matter. And infants cannot choose but children as they grow they can choose what they want. But then comes the dear parents(grandparents and others) to condition ones behaviour, eating habits etc.Not to speak of the Society with its Bible,sanctioning that man is the Master over all animals etc. So where does one get the opportunity to be in touch with ones own real NATURE?Not to speak of the external NATURE!

Forum: Awareness in our world today Wed, 02 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

What I refer here, is the kind of food habits, we give our children.The drinks(coca-cola to beer, vodka,jin&whisky, coffe &tea etc).Each person in his body is unique and we impose from childhood onwards this despicable meat-comnsuming behaviour.Dear Pollixenie Dristas, you are referring to the Totality of child-rearing through conditioning. I agree with you there are bad& good ways of doing this.Look at the world today, we have problems of alcoholism,drug-addiction,delinquency,criminality among children and youth in every country.We are all responsible for it.Governmental organizations cannot cope with it alone. Here the point is, on vegetarianism, and it could save the world. Sensitivity is being lost among humans because of this monstrous food habit.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Fri, 04 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Dear Bob, I agree to disagree with you on this. Imagine how the oceans are being depleted for the fish,how industial production of pigs, cows and polutry is leading us to unending spiral of pollution.Yesterdays news here ,in Denmark_Drinking water is polluted with fæces (of animals&human origin) in 200 local water authorities.There are reports of unending diarrhera-like debilitating diseases among the town-dwellers! E Coli bacteria in potable drinking water supplied by authorities(70million pigs are reared here on an industrial scale for a population of 5 million)_ Facts speak for themselves.It is not a personal attack on non-Vegetarians including you ,BOB! Acutality demands action.That is why it is a" must" if we do not intend to end up in pollution catastrophe on this delicate Earth!

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Patricia Hemingway wrote: Quite apart from the matters already raised in this thread about worldwide disease and pollution resulting from mankind's unnecessary desire to eat animal flesh and products, there is also the sensitivity factor.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Thank you for emphasizing the sensitivity factor,Patricia.Here in Denmark in the past 3 months several dogs(special types ,like roteweiler,amstff and other kind of attacking types)have attacked human beings and there is a hue and cry about stopping or prohibiting the rearing of these dogs at homes ,as pets. People seem to have lost sensitivity to each other so much that they keep up rearing these dogs to the detriment of neigbours, children and passers-by. So where can sensitivity come from when one keeps eating meat? What is the difference between these dogs that eat meat and the man who keeps them to attack others with them?He also consumes huge quantities of meat compared to 60 years back(as per latest statistics from the Health Research Institute here in DK)The more we eat such things ,grosser and sicklier we become and where can sensitivity spring from?There is no room to talk of love and only "money" and Prestige counts. Every little thing that we do to our own delicate bodies have a telling effect on the long run by way of incurable illnesses and what we do on a larger scale to this delicate Earth has its own consequences too.

Forum: K's teachings - new or old? Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: New or old or strange&unique

Thank you for asking me Therese.Man´s neuroticism is endless.In his obsessive compulsive reaction tocreate order, he uses rationality and imposese it upon Naure. Half-baked theories of man, Nature does not care and is not at all affected.Nature carries on its wont path. Man on the other hand, dogmatised by religions, science&technology keeps on with his monkey-tricks of creating his own order of things without any deeper level of understanding.The Australian aborioginals lived in harmony with Nature for hundreds of centuries before the arrival of the so-called-rational-minded -Christian whites. Look at Australia today......

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: Young boy kills to please his fiancee``

Patricia Hemingway wrote: Does meat-eating feed fantasy, desire, and images - along with aggression?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: Young boy kills to please his fiancee``

In the Indian tradition we believe that "anna"/meaning "food" is the creating and sustaining the life in the body to house the soul. It is ideal such food consumed should be "sadvik" meaning neutral&calming, not inducing violence or uncontrollable desires. Not only meat , but also vegetables such as garlic, oninon, drumstick are banned -because they cause uncontrollable DESIRE/ "KAMA". Food is essential to survive but not for aggressive intent and purpose. (As a chemist in my bachelors degree), I can vouchsafe that onions and garlic do contain sulphides which may induce bodily effects.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

You have succintly put it, Patricia, thanks.Scientists are encouraged to grow meat in the lab artificially but nobody encourages them to study the actual biological effects of the various products humans continue to consume limitlessly.Imagine if such a research was undertaken, the fate of MacDonaLDS,Alchoholic beverage producers,&CoCoCola producers, canned meat producers etc.... ?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Greg Van Tongeren wrote: Isn't vegetarianism like every other "ism," a divisive philosophy as to what should be? Another belief-system as to what is moral and what is not?

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

One cannot categorize vegetarianism as an "ism" and belief-system and try to dismiss it ,as you attempt at, dear GV Tongeren. We are pointing out the consequences of unmitigtaed violence inflicted upon fellow creatures on this Earth and the gross consumer nature. It is not an ism.It is an actual fact of what is obtaining todays world. One does not need to be an arrogant philosopher to be sensitive to ones own body and ones own envron. As the saying goes "it is Sofie`s choice.......

Forum: Awareness in our world today Sun, 06 Sep 2009
Topic: The US President, OBAMA & his..

Film Festival at Venice: Michael

Moore<code>s film"CAPITALISAM:A LOVE STORY" hits the headlines.Mr M.Moore says the revolution of the people has started with OBAMA</code>S election...... so Moore has a tremendous image built up at the cost of OBAMA& the ciizens of USA. The merry -go- around of revolutions----emphasized text

Forum: Awareness in our world today Mon, 07 Sep 2009
Topic: Is vegetarianism a must for saving the world and ourselves?

Patricia Hemingway wrote: If you think about it - mankind seems to 'consume' everything now. And what is your feeling about organ transplants? 'Cannibalism' by any other name surely?