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Forum: Awareness in our world today Mon, 16 Nov 2009
Topic: retreats

Understand present is the reality, and without condemnation or jusrtification watch the self centrdness which again if you underrstand they induce the thoughts, and this awareness will bring in the tranquility without effort. Todays quote will be highly useful for understanding.The craving for experience is the beginning of illusion. gb

Forum: Awareness in our world today Mon, 16 Nov 2009
Topic: Can we consider Krishnamurti as continuity of Budha

Sorry Sri Paul Lanzon, I should have verified before mentioning the fundamental differences.However this inquiry lead me to one more aspect of Buddha. Lord Buddha was not against Veda. Some ignorant people think so as they have heard the opinion of the Hinayana Buddhists only. Lord Buddha had the highest regards for the Veda. He told the brahmins that they should understand the true meaning of the Veda. Vedas are not just for the rituals. Lord Buddha quoted vedic verses when he was talking to Bimbisara. Kindly let me know if this is authentic. gb

Forum: Insights Mon, 16 Nov 2009
Topic: melody and rhythm of life looking for harmony!

In Indian system of music a single note and its aesthetic aspects are more important and where as in western music it is the group of notes.In classical Indian music there is no harmony at all. i find so also in the indian culture compared to western culture there is no team work.The language also which they speak follow Dorian mode. a diminished pattern. is the system of music shapes the culture of that place? gb

Forum: the end of discussion Mon, 16 Nov 2009
Topic: How to finish, once and for all...

Those who became invincible through sacred heat, who went to the sun through sacred heat, who made sacred heat their glory- let him go away straight to them.

Forum: Awareness in our world today Mon, 16 Nov 2009
Topic: What is not based on truth and love will wither away....

colin holt wrote: If something is stirring, why wait.......

What is ours of this, what riches, what treasure? tell us, for you understand, you who know all creatures.Hidden is the farthest end of our road, where we have gone as those who fail follow a false path.

What are the limits? what are the rules? What is the goal? We wish to go there as race horses speed towards the victory prize. When will the Dawns, goddesses and wives of immortality, spread over us their light with the colour of the sun?

Forum: K, psychology and the physical brain Wed, 18 Nov 2009
Topic: Classic Conditioning

Patricia Hemingway wrote: K pointed to truth -

please, dont think Iam arguing. I just want to know why you mention the truth pointed out by JK, that is why I suspected of your conditioning to JK. gb

Forum: My Favorite Krishnamurti One-Liners Wed, 18 Nov 2009
Topic: Krishnamurti one liner

Patricia Hemingway wrote: Til" implies time - becoming

shall we replace by if for till..

Forum: K, psychology and the physical brain Wed, 18 Nov 2009
Topic: Classic Conditioning

Patricia Hemingway wrote: It is the responsibility of each one of us to go into what is said and find out the truth (or not) of it.

Definetely...Your friend here says,' I will tell you in what manner you can have the whole insight'. Will you listen to him? Don't argue, just listen. You give rice to the beggar: he didn't expect anything from you, but you give it.In the same way, he is giving me a gift and he says, Take it, dont ask me why you are being given it, who is giving it; just take it'. He tells me this and he disappears. He has left with me a tremendous jewel and Iam watching the beauty of it.Iam enthralled by the jewel and that jewel begins to reveal things, I have never seen before,and that jewel says,' Hold me more closely, you will see much more".Iam not trying to convince anybody of anything. We see that our knowledge is very limited and knowledge may be the very danger, it may be the poison in all of us.

<pre><code> **Jk in the last talks.page 7** </code></pre>

The much more iam trying to share with you, not as an authority.

Wake up with one mind, my friends, and kindle the fire, you many who share the same nest.

Forum: Insights Thu, 19 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

rajaratnam retnajothy wrote: Being aware at every moment is to be aware of the appearence of these desires wnen these appear.

good , you raised a question and you have answered it rightly, if still you percieve the problem, you can listen to what i have been saying?

gb

Forum: K, psychology and the physical brain Thu, 19 Nov 2009
Topic: Classic Conditioning

'I' implies, mean the life and living, the relationship and the present and the timeless... this i picked up from JK's Last talk.However thank you Respected Patricia, now iam understanding rightly. gb

Forum: My Favorite Krishnamurti One-Liners Thu, 19 Nov 2009
Topic: Krishnamurti one liner

Sure.. Shall we finish it by replacing till with 'the moment'..

gb

Forum: K, psychology and the physical brain Thu, 19 Nov 2009
Topic: Classic Conditioning

Patricia Hemingway wrote: Doubt all human authority

Incidentally, Vedas are not from human intellect, they are also not authority to say do this and dont do this. You can be enthralled with that jewel, reverberate along and that is all you can do with that source of insight... thank you gb

Forum: K, psychology and the physical brain Thu, 19 Nov 2009
Topic: Classic Conditioning

like Jk ...(if you want or dont want to add)... gb

Forum: Insights Fri, 20 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Rasmus Tinning wrote: One typical way of dealing with the problem of changing one's consciousness is to find a philosophy that offers a satisfactory explanation of things and thereby creates a certain intellectual order.

good reply Sir. and in this connection only iam suggesting veda and only those who who have gone through JK can easily understand them .it is not different but it touches upon certein things beyond our mind symbolically and allegorically without any dos and donts. The understanding will come automatically.The secret of Veda by Sri Aurobindo will be useful. One can also read Sr. R.L. Kashyaps books. i suggest please visit vedah.com.it may tale some time to get acquainted with indian terms like Agni- which is illumined will, Indra The king of senses, Soma the celestial drink etc... thank you all. gb

Forum: Insights Sat, 21 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Rasmus Tinning wrote: Personally I?m not so interested in the right ideas and answers, but in going beyond the verbal level. The verbal level is necessary to begin with, but ultimately it is ashes.

true, and infact what i have exposed verbally is just a minute fraction. All of us have been including JK are conditioned to Vedas inevitably, beyond our awareness to see the reality as it is.this may appear a mystery, but this is what is behind that vedic mysticism....gb

Forum: Insights Sat, 21 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Hermann Janzen wrote: 'and understanding will come automatically'.

One who looked did not see speech, and another who listens does not hear it. It reveals itself to someone as a loving wife, beautifully dressed, reveals her body to her husband.. Again it is not based on the authority and conditioning of this verses Iam pointing out. I felt ecstatic when i understood few verses that way. How could a human construct be so holistic?

gb

Forum: Insights Sat, 21 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Rasmus Tinning wrote: I am trying to say is that the very security and satisfaction of intellectual understanding can be a sleeping-pill.

one cannot understand veda also intellectually as equally as Jk:-)....It is like that breeze ..... One practical test, one can see as clearly as we see a table, if only if two people from this forum meet without a physical touch at the same time , at the same level and at the same intensity,preferably on beyond( please dont get in to the conditioning of heissenbergs uncertainty..it happens and only thing is it is difficult with effort).This is possible with people who understand JK and that is the beauty of JK. gb

Forum: K, psychology and the physical brain Sat, 21 Nov 2009
Topic: Classic Conditioning

phil K wrote: What is your impetus towards continued childbearing in this world? And what is your impetus towards continued marriage? Is this, to you, what love is all about?

One practical test, one can see as clearly as we see a table, if only if two people from this forum meet at the same time , at the same level and at the same intensity preferably on beyond without aphysical comtact( please don't get in to the conditioning of heissenbergs uncertainty..it happens and only thing is it is difficult with effort).posted at Seriousness tag.

gb

Forum: Insights Mon, 23 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Hermann Janzen wrote: What if I were a woman, how would it reveal itself to me then?

Intelligent question? Reality is different from the way we want it to be. if you see a soft porn in this you can substitute beauty for body or if you are obssesed you can put it other way.it is an allegory and symbolical from the reality we observe or it is that the reality is as this because of it..besides man or women it is only conditioning. the insight and understanding is spontaneous and you get it as revelation. if Jk says it will come to you sir... then you shake your head.if you were a women , there is something called bridal mysticism which is open to you. There is a man and women inside each other if you want this differently.. The best thing is if you feel it a nonsense ,as suggested by JK ,be indifferent to it. gb

Forum: Question authority Mon, 23 Nov 2009
Topic: contradiction in JK's teaching

JK: I have not read any philosophical, psychological, or religious literature, neither the Bhagavad-Gita nor the Upanishads.

Todays quote is that not a contradiction. he is not conditioned by anything is different. gb

Forum: Insights Mon, 23 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Hermann Janzen wrote: How ludicrous can you get, dear man.

One who looked did not see speech, and another who listens does not hear it. It reveals itself to someone as a loving wife, beautifully dressed, reveals her beauty to her husband..

Incidentally the translator of that verse is a woman. So I didnt bother to change it as above.

If only if you have the right vision, you will understand the whole of JK is encapsulated in this verse. Dont worry it will reveal and be patient. gb

Forum: Insights Mon, 23 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Hermann Janzen wrote: If I wait fot it to reveal itself to me.

how come you are also telling the same thing.

Iam encountering the same difficulty as we all feel now in taking JK to others. gb

Forum: Insights Mon, 23 Nov 2009
Topic: Violence

Iam neither attached to violence or non violence. Iam awareness and eternal bliss...

gb

Forum: K, psychology and the physical brain Tue, 24 Nov 2009
Topic: Classic Conditioning

phil K wrote: I am interested in discussing an extension of K teachings into a more modern realm of brain structure, neurology and a discussion of thought, self image, conditioning, the "I" as center as they may be related to the scientific studies of the brain.....etc.

good , go ahead. gb

Forum: Insights Tue, 24 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

rajaratnam retnajothy wrote: Kinfonet,kfa,kfi and others are trying to do that.That is to take JK to others.

Is that all. JK is a clear beginning and we are traversing the pathless land freely with( the ultimate , ) holistic truth .... gb

Forum: Insights Tue, 24 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Hermann Janzen wrote: How can you presume to 'take JK to others'?

rajaratnam retnajothy wrote: Kinfonet,kfa,kfi and others are trying to do that.

iam in my own way .first by definetely understanding and having understood his own limitations or everyones limitation in putting in to words the how, holistically taking the fragrance which will take care of ..

The birds that eat honey nest and brood on that tree on whose tip, they say, is the sweet fruit. No one who does not know the father eats that.

<pre><code> The Elements of Sacrifice. </code></pre>

gb

Forum: Question authority Tue, 24 Nov 2009
Topic: contradiction in JK's teaching

Galaxy Eh wrote: There are many paradoxes.

pardoxes are contradictions...iam not pointing out the contradictions of Jk as opposites.is this paradox clear:-)

Forum: Question authority Tue, 24 Nov 2009
Topic: contradiction in JK's teaching

Galaxy Eh wrote: There are many paradoxes.

Atleast if you remain stupid for the paradoxes and rather than craving for experience which is the beginning of illusion. what is the paradox in this rather than an dishonest statement. How come one can quote upanishads and vedas without studying them and when he himself said it on various occasions. The reason behind is a paradox which also I feel is a conditioning. since i wanted to be indifferent to your reply i made it funny. i suggest you there are no paradoxes and everything is as clear as you see a mirror (table).

gb

Forum: My Favorite Krishnamurti One-Liners Tue, 24 Nov 2009
Topic: Krishnamurti one liner

Patricia Hemingway wrote: Close - but somewhat misquoted.

Yes, Respected patricia.I want to fill up that close.I will try by being with the source. is that not Menon trying it on his own where he has come closer. gb

Forum: Insights Wed, 25 Nov 2009
Topic: Seriousness

Iam not approaching veda in traditional way. After Jk only I saw some meaning in Veda and that way i found JK is the beginning (and end also or no end) and just continuing.... gb when I was introduced to JK I could not understand. later i found JK opened the fountain head. If we are responsible then we understand the Vedas are not preserved for millenums by some fools and that is not understood by them which is more funny.Words are limited....when the understanding comes you will find meaning but it will come on its own and we have to pay the right attention and prepared for it. Again words dont describe properly.... thank you gb