Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?


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Krishnamurti was not an exceptional. The way of teachings, dialoague is not common but the main things out of these was universally accessible

dibyendu dey
Fri, 12 Jun 2009

Yes. I think he was exceptional in that he believed the transformation of which he spoke is universally accessible to all (regardless of whether they have ever heard of Krishnamurti or not).

Linda Thorlakson (account deleted)
Fri, 12 Jun 2009

Universally accessible, but approaches (to transform) vary and are unique to each individual.

Venu Gopal
Sat, 13 Jun 2009

He is unique in that he is both simple and complex.
Every one who hears him benefits.
The benefit is not by way of any gain or the gain is the shedding of a bit of ones' baggage or burden.
If the "transformation" is mystical or transcendental, it is beyond me. If the "transformation" is a slightly different approach when you hold a job or when you deal with your wife or neighbour or when you walk in a park or when you cast your vote in an election or when you sit on a dentist's chair, then, such trasformation is universally accessible.

prasad mulupuri
Sat, 13 Jun 2009

He was speaking on a level of my understanding, what a normal, ordinary human can comprehend. However, his teachings were repetitious.

Monic Devi
Sun, 14 Jun 2009

His courage was exceptional....our conditioning is heavy and to make an effort to understand what he means and then actually examine it and live it takes just as much courage so the example is there....

The transformation he spoke about is definitely accessible and possible ... it is however a lonely path and most of us are hesitant about that..... again our conditioning is heavy and being diffrent, not following anything or anyone iis likely to threaten others. So there is a price to pay..... It is however, perhaps the only and the most important focus in one's life to actually examine it all and experience the truth. Aren't we blessed!

malgosia plejewska
Sun, 14 Jun 2009

IT SURELY IS POSSIBLE TO ANY PERSON WHO IS PROFOUNDLY SERIOUS AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES THE TEACHING SO ATTRACTIVE AND UNFORGETTABLE.

GOVIND MANCHI KRISHNAMURTHY
Sun, 14 Jun 2009

Though Krishnamurti's level of freedom could be similar to that of Buddha or others, he was exceptional in his expressions to give a near scientific and logical explanation to his state of mind.

The (theory of) transformation that K spoke of is universally accessible, but those who are interested and can afford may be less.

Prasanna P
Mon, 15 Jun 2009

both, as i see it. krishnamurti had a genius for 'spiritual work' just like mozart had a genius for music. the exact transformation he spoke of was fully accessible only to him; it was his unique path. but it is possible for others to undergo a transformation that 'brings them' to the same state of realization.

rachMiel ...
Mon, 15 Jun 2009

I believe Krishnamurti was exceptional, in that he managed to free himself from his own self-created imaginings and transcend the conditioning of his theosophical upbringing, training and preparation for the created role of World Teacher. As such, this ability to free oneself from ones own imagination and whatever training and preparation one has gone through for ones own self-fulfilling role in this world must be universally accessible.

Terri Rawlings
Mon, 15 Jun 2009

Krishnamurthi is exceptionally the transformation that the humanity in oneself has to rediscover and unlearn or relearn; the only transformation that is precise in the process of change, for he does not advocate nor propagate any kind of concept or ideology.
On the other hand he is, as he himself states, 'the mirror' 'the reflection', that is why it is so arduous to be able to absorb the logic or the science of his 'thinking'.

Kingston Gilbert
Mon, 15 Jun 2009

Obviously, reading and feeling his books, he must have been a real human being, a true human being. I would not say he was exceptional, there might be three or four others ;-) But, definitely, the transformation he (and others in other form) spoke about, is universally accessible for real human beings.

Thomas Fürniß
Mon, 15 Jun 2009

I think Krishnamurti was exceptional and that transformation is possible

averil harrison
Tue, 16 Jun 2009

Yes I feel he was exceptional,and I don't know if the transformation is universally
accessible.

james bond
Tue, 16 Jun 2009

Krishnamurti was exceptional, no doubt about that. If the transformation he spoke of is universally accessible, that doesn't mean that a whole lot of people are going to access it. In fact very few have. Maybe nobody has. I don't actually know of anybody who has. But (through my reading of books) I do know of a few people to whom reading or listening to K has made a real difference (in their lives).

Transformation doesn't mean you will become like Krishnamurti. It could mean only that certain problems drop away. For "the other" (another dimension or whatever) to manifest itself, the mind must be somewhat undamaged. Unfortunately most of us are so dulled and spoiled by our conditioning, various cruelties, and our various responses to those cruelties, and so on, that probably the most that can happen is the dropping away of a few problems, a certain unburdening. But that is something! Let's make the most of that! It leaves us free to enjoy life without destroying or exploiting anybody - to look at the sea, sky, trees, birds (what's left of them). I think that this can sometimes be included under the umbrella-word "transformation". Krishnamurti went much, much further. He was lucky. He was exceptional in his luck as well as exceptional in what he found out through his own hard work. To try to follow him there will only lead to frustration and depression, and possibly self-deception. We can only do our own "work" in our own lives, and see what happens. The mistake is to look at Krishnamurti, formulate a goal or a result, and try to achieve that. I made that mistake. It nearly destroyed me. And yet over and over again Krishnamurti has pointed out that that is not the way!

Is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible? Depends what you mean by accessible. Depends what you mean by transformation. Just now it seems to me like this: Total transformation is just so unlikely, and probably impossible. What IS possible, however, is the planting of seeds whose growth make a real difference.

James Turner
Tue, 16 Jun 2009

K may have been exceptional because, if we accept that he might have been selfless since birth, such a phenomenon is not at all common. But, at the same time, the transformation he spoke of is indeed universally accessible, because it is a matter of insight and insight is our universal human potential.

Javier Gómez Rodríguez
Tue, 16 Jun 2009

Nisargadatta Maharaj, another great sage,said about K as COMPLETE BRAHMAN (meaning manifestation of unmanifest) in his free E-book I AM UNBORM in the chapter 45.
So obviously he is something like 'beyond Buddha. Regarding the second aspect of this question K himself said if even a single person changes that effects human conciousness
altogether.

madhusudhan rao taduri
Wed, 17 Jun 2009

Exceptional will be a under statement. Yes, He himself has started the mission - by starting several schools and over saw what practical transformation can be brought about. That needs to be taken as guide line. It will take time. End and means are the same.

Gururaj Rao
Wed, 17 Jun 2009

He was exceptional.

park chonghai
Wed, 17 Jun 2009

Not sure I understand the question. All I will say is I can't find ANYTHING false in his teaching to this date. As to the person, I really don't care whether he was 'enlightened' or not. All I care about is the teaching...

The Spod
Wed, 17 Jun 2009

a light in darkness to see way ahead. transformation he talked is not a fixed point it is a flow; in learnig ;listening . looking and living.

david sharma
Wed, 17 Jun 2009

It must be, unless you believe we are what we are, then it may seem that way to a mind which is actually resisting what it is, with the idea of what it is not, but it has lived as it is, and that has become the known, the security which it identifies with; even if it is partial and it is not quiet the totality of transformation, it is something that can relate

Emir Camdzic (account deleted)
Thu, 18 Jun 2009

What makes K. different, for me, is his inquiry into awareness. It was by me taking this journey into awareness that I was able to see a door in my acculturation that allowed me to be rather than unlearning. The meditation of simple awareness starts a process that transforms effortlessly.

Ben Montalbano
Thu, 18 Jun 2009

Oh, both, definitely. I think he was very exceptional, but for it to be just for 1 or 2 people, is not really what I think he talked for. Although, those 1 or 2 could make quite a difference. But to limit it to a few, that would be silly and really pointless. But it's also not, I don't believe, for the casual. It's something body, mind, and heart, and for the three to come together is rigorous.

mike christani (account deleted)
Thu, 18 Jun 2009

Krishnamurti the man was truly exceptional. In theory the transformation is universally accessible BUT many, many doors with remain forever unopened in actuality.

slakki zi
Fri, 19 Jun 2009

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