Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Geetha Waters
Geetha Waters
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Given that intelligence is unequivocally present and the sense of life permeates our being, it was a mystery to me why I should look for intelligence elsewhere. Thankfully at school, Krishnamurti repeatedly pointed to the fact that life is present, whole and evident to the observer. He invited us, to explore life for ourselves and appreciate it. He warned us about being waylaid by other people's interpretations. Then it was a matter of observing how far one could stray from the fact of life while interpreting anything, to realize the significance of 'seeing' for oneself. It was a challenge to observe and learn from life, but well worth the commitment of energy required to stay with the inquiry and clarify my mind.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

I think that the need to maintain a honest and healthy dialogue is urgent if the teachings of JK are to survive into the future. He has covered so much ground that is valuable to our inquiry that it enables complete strangers to come together to explore the human condition, uncover confusion and share in the richness and complexity of being human. We can reflect the serious nature of inquiry and encourage people struggling with their lives to become involved in resolving conflict. That, as far as I am concerned, would be a step in the right direction, since participating in the process of inquiry with other wonderers brings confusion to light, enabling the mind to let go and get on with living.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

Sincerity comes when there is trust and no need for competition. When there is a group of people who are caring towards each other, there is freedom to inquire, spontaneously or in an organized manner. It helps to try both to see what works. The dynamics between groups change all the time.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

I feel that to the extent there is honesty in a relationship, the more practicable aspect of his teachings can be unearthed and lived. The fact of life unfolds without hindrance from our labels. Labels become a curiosity, a subject of study, not the instruments that dictate the way we look at life.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Krishnamurti was exceptional because he saw the problem of conditioning that ensnares human beings around the world. He saw the universal nature of this conditioning to rely on prior knowledge which occurs as a child learns to speak during infancy. He attempted to address the problem of our preoccupation with what is already known through discourse and inquiry, encouraging children to participate in dialogue and explore the processes involved in processing verbal information. All along he was encouraging us to explore our powers of observation so we would not lose sight of the fact that life can be observed and perceived directly. Once the mind is clear about the limited nature of thought, the transformation he spoke of is universally accessible.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Perhaps the drive to inquire and explore my assumptions can be called conditioning. I haven't regretted that drive, since it has enabled me to face numerous challenges in life and still be grateful for having come into contact with Krishnamurti, as a teacher.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

I haven't known a life without Krishnamurti and his teachings, since I grew up in his school at Rishi Valley. My life has been challenging and interesting because of my fortunate circumstances. There have been so many opportunities to meet people who are seriously concerned with life that despite the obvious horrors of the human condition, one feels emboldened to carry on.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

I often mention his teachings, but I do not force it on people in social contexts because it takes a great deal of energy for people to go into the teachings with care. I work at the Summer Hill Krishnamurti Centre in Sydney and meet people who are hesitant and curious all the time. Whether they have the strength to see it through is really up to each individual.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

Krishnamurti is about awakening intelligence to the fact that the description is not the described. If the mind can see how easy it is to slip into relying on prior knowledge to view life, then it will be aware of the tendency to look at life through a screen of ideas and ignore the creative vitality that is unfolding within and all around us.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

I enjoy the access to such a thorough exploration to all the various questions that people have generated over the years in their desire for the ideal world. I find it is up to each human being to see for themselves the trap that we have collectively created through our robust use of language to woo each other to imagine a world of make believe. Nothing I tried to imagine could match the world I was a part of during the early years and that is why I feel that his work with children is of vital importance to education. He drew my interest to the fact of attention as being unequivocally present within and without. Attention was a fact of life and knowledge was limited and it continues, thankfully, to be so.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

It is essential to relate to your own life and relationships to clarify what Krishnamurti says. Otherwise his words just take on the form of abstractions which fuel desire for an idealistic world lurking somewhere out there.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

I feel that exploring with others breaks down a possessive disposition towards concepts. We cherish many notions which need to be challenged from time to time. It is healthy to share our views with others.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

I volunteered at the Summer Hill Krishnamurti Centre for 5 years. I also work with children when I am in India to promote dialogue in the classroom.

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

Being aware is not about following any set of beliefs. Living is sufficient... to do so in accordance to a set of concepts is contradiction.

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Geetha Waters wrote:
Fri, 13 Aug 2010, 12:49pm

It seems such a tragedy to speculate about the Teachings endlessly when in retrospect, most of the comments K repeated at our schools were simply admitting obvious facts. We dwell upon "what is", "what was", "what could it be", all to facilitate further speculation untill the whole mechanism grinds to a halt seeing that no matter how intense our longing for something 'other', life is under no obligation to conform to our ideas of it!

Why was this so much simpler to come to terms with as a child when the movement of thought was observed as part of child's play? Perhaps there was more room for error then since one had nothing to lose in admitting to misconceptions.

It is surely a lot harder to admit to misconceptions later in life when there is so much lived experience at stake rather than a simple flight of fantacy so obviously at odds with life itself. It was funny to have an insight into the ways of words then. Little did I realize that speculating about reality would turn into a habit that would take years and years to wear itself out.