Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Joseph Askey
Joseph Askey
United States
Birthday: April 24
Member since: Thu, 11 Jun 2009, 12:39am
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Member Statement

First awareness of K arose when he was mentioned & quoted at an Alan Watts lecture, which I was attending as a "seeker" of something "real", something true. Further investigation of K lead to the reading of "First & Last Freedom"; for the first time there was a feeling of touching something real & true. The "seeker" then focused on K, it all became an obsession; journeys to Ojai, endless visits to the Bodhi Tree Bookstore to obtain every available book or recording. That went on for years (not so much because there was a lot to learn, but because one only knew the movement of time & simply did not know "how" to look) untill certain qualities began to flower; qualities that are real & true. The seeker is happily retired now & lives freely without the problem of "becomming".

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

If one were "tied up in knots" he might try doubting the reality of those knots. This whole question comes from a mind in duality; to be squeezed by knots tied by some mysterious force implies a victim, a separate entity; there is no such entity. Doubt everything; the false will fall away; what is will not fall away.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

Does one find it difficult to accept the sunrise?

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

The phrase implies a duality; a gap between what one is & what one is trying to become. It implies imitation & conformity, which lead to conflict & sorrow.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

With an awarenesss of such a "condition" comes the ending of it.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

There is no method, no ideal; what is there to practice? It is a "wrong question".

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

It has value at a certain level, depending, on the group, if they are serious. "Dialogue" is an excellent medium for sharing truth; it is the way Plato chose to share Socrates with the world. However, I don't think K was trying to give a "message"; rather, he, like Socrates, was here to awaken, not inform. Dialogue is really only useful at a superficial level; deep understanding comes only when there is the freedom of being alone.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Ruben: You are a very special human being. You are easy to love.

Krishnamurti: I admit I'm different, but the transformation that has occurred in me can occur in any other human being. And nobody needs Krishnmurti or Dr. Ruben for that radical transformation, which is so necessary, to occur.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

One must be careful not to become a propagandist. To merely repeat words without fully understanding them is to be dishonest. When there is comprehension & understanding of that which K points out, there is no need to quote him to "others". K chose his own words; if we are free, we can do the same.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

Does the morning sun have an effect on the flower?

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

You may remember the story of how the devil and a friend of his were walking down the street, when they saw ahead of them a man stoop down and pick up something from the ground, look at it, and put it away in his pocket. The friend said to the devil, "What did that man pick up?" "He picked up a piece of Truth," said the devil. "That is a very bad business for you, then," said his friend. "Oh, not at all," the devil replied, "I am going to let him organize it."
K 1929

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

Truth is beyond measure; it is changeless, and yet always new. What can be measured is not truth. Truth has no future, no past; it is, now.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

Ruben: Would you summarize the teaching in only one sentence?

Krishnamurti: Attempt without effort to live with death in futureless silence.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

The "personal" is an obstacle to true exploration.

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Wed, 11 May 2011, 6:39am

Felt happy to go through your profile on this occasion.