Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

Yes, absolutely. If one is somewhat aware during one's day, one will catch insights into one's thought, which has an effect on one's whole thinking- throws a light on the unconscious accepted pattern of thought which one is typically unconscious of, which is learning- not positing, adjusting, but a real change through simple seeing.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

I think there are "gray areas" in life he seemed to pass over, and I think one learns of these through simply living, perhaps reading a little widely, if one's lucky enough to find the right books! Writers such as D.H. Lawrence, Lawrence Durrell are two of my favorites. There is perhaps a danger in reading K alone, one may become narrow and dogmatic. There is a lot to life K didn't really go into, perhaps because his message was so important, but a human being living in this world I think might need a little more than just K in his life. I believe a friend can help, and a good author can be a good friend. Just an opinion.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

Reading, videos, forums. In that order. The forums may sharpen one's thought at first, but one is dealing with people at all different levels which can become frustrating.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Yes, probably my fault for being rigid and dogmatic about my understanding of them. I think one needs a breather once in a while, though for someone who's truly seen what the man was talking about, one seems inevitably to go back. Nothing else will satisfy.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

Occasionally I have been in contact with people without an image involved, but this has little place in a world that believes in a concrete, if somewhat altering ego, self. Images dominate the world. However, it is nicer to be in contact with a person without having an image in the way. This seems to require a subsiding of one's own self. K's teachings have had a profound perceptible effect on my life, heightening the beauty of the earth, and one's own perception has grown larger over the years, actually. One's vision itself grows wider, silence, seeing, more deep, alive.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

Perhaps "You are the world and the world is you"- in the sense that I've never understood what he meant exactly.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

Good lord, one hopes they will at least stay alive. Whether they grow, I don't think is important. The minority who are serious will always be the light. One hopes he will not become a religion.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

Man is caught in thought. The self is created by thought. There is more to the world than just thought, vastly more, I believe. I can't really say much more- these things are best teased out in dialogues, I believe, and in K's own words. We live in a very very narrow part of life, extraordinarily so. I would tell anyone to begin looking at nature. It's not man-made, not thought, and if you can begin to see nature without an image, you can begin to see yourself with that clarity.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

I've never spoken 2 words about K to anyone, except on the forums, which aren't very serious. So I don't know what group dialogues in person are like.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

I did at first, like anyone. No one listens. I only would speak of it to someone pretty intelligent, and pretty discontented. I think a person has to be willing to give up everything to pursue this to the end and it is not at all common (not even sure if I could!). With most people I think it would just bring more useless conflict to tell them about K.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

No idea.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

Well, as he put it, you would weigh it to find the truth of it, or the truth in the false, or the false as false. That is, I listen, intent to find out. There's little point in accepting. If you see it's true, there it is. if you don't understand it, put it on hold. I wouldn't dismiss anything out of hand. I think the doubt is in the weighing.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

I do think he was remarkably exceptional, but, what he "achieved" was what he spoke of for 70 years, that others might reach it. Obviously he felt they can.

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