Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Joel King
Joel King
United States
Birthday: January 1
Member since: Tue, 30 Oct 2012, 5:53pm
Last visited 4 years ago

Member Statement

Decided to join this site due to the lack of meaningful depth in conversations that I have with people I meet or currently know.

Interests and Recommendations

Books

freedom from the known

Movies

zeitgeist

Music

Ivy Jill Scott Bebel Gilberto Thievery Corporation

Other interests

organic living skateboarding disc golf

Interview Answers

Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

Summary: NO!
If so, then the mode of practice becomes all important and any real meaning evaporates by practicing a 'system'. Repetition is of no help in understanding perception, repetition only strenghens the chaos in my mind.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

I have noticed some books talk of thoughts or thinking as one (or no separation) yet in other books he divides consciousness in terms of lower or sub-conscience.
(will clarify when possible)

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

Throughout daily interactions. This question appears to be a marketing tool. The medium that introduces you to K is irrelevant in the context of actually going through the task of understanding the self.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

Tricky, tricky... you can have it both ways if you carefully and honestly look into the motivation of an 'organized' talk, to essentially be aware of any agenda lurking underneath intent.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

It is highly advisable cause it gives a genuine perception of the person from there reaction to the book and gives me a 'snap-shot' of how a person views existence. This hits on why I chose to sign up here. I have given away many books (particularly "Freedom From The Known") with little reception, meaning no depth of conversation; just a discourse of comparison or labeling such as "just another philosophy book". K wants you to reach way into the depths of yourself and I have found none that are willing to unravel their belief of how they see the world from within.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

Liberation from the tyranny of faith/belief/trust.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

It is accessible when you dissolve the illusion you have of society, meaning yourself, in so that you break away from 'tradition' and live an authentic life.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

Absolutely, this isn't a 'sugar pill' you take and somehow makes you feel better about yourself. I have given books to close relatives with the understanding that we go into it deeply or don't bother to call again.

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

That is the catch, when discussing K's word it soon boils down to 'perfection' as in when we don't live up to something we are no longer a person of interest because others become aware that we are not 'enlightened' and therefore disregarded.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

If you are trying to balance these then you are only fooling yourself, K is not my guru, he is someone I would have enjoyed talking to like an honest friend.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Yes. Not choosing is still a choice.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

The ugly business of religion has only just begun. Scientology anyone!?! I see him as coming into existence way too soon, but as humanity goes through physical time all the atrocities from belief systems will erode the power they wield and K will be more than a god he will be viewed as the first 'authentic' human to have ever existed.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

It has value when someone's word broadens your perception.

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