Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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r j
r j
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Member since: Sat, 07 Jul 2012, 8:20am
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If I make a statement about how I currently think, feel or believe won't that mean I eventually, and inevitably, have to defend, retract or amend it?

If I am defined by my thoughts and beliefs I can be the worst bore because I will be constantly needing to prove how I am right...

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

I think you should remove the word 'the' from this question as he was a man rather than an institution and anyway would probably rather dislike being referred to in the same way as 'the Christ, the Buddha' etc.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

aye, but that's ok, even today's weather has that kind of effect. I am a creature of my environment and I learned how to read so... yes.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

I grew up Catholic until the age of 12 when, after some dismal failures on the part of the Almighty to produce some required miracles, I turned to the dark side of doubt. Never looked back.

(actually that's an outright lie but...best move on)

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

I don't know, probably, nothing springs to mind. I didn't sharpen my axe before I came here, why are you asking?

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

This is starting to feel like a survey generated by Cult-Masters Incorporated to be filed under 'new recruits'!

Who makes up these questions?
Aside from why are you asking you have got the structure the wrong way around... i.e.

Have you ever introduced K to people you know?
If yes, what were your experiences?
So, do you think it is... you get my point

now I have that off my chest yes I have, plenty of times, I just never did it on the street with a stranger so of course the people who I was already in a deep conversation with were entirely receptive.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

That's a good question because I would bloody well hope so.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Not important at all

but if you were to ask, how important do I consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of ourselves I would say

very

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

Yes he was exceptional
I object to the word transformation as I think it is misleading and the source of much mischief.

Can people heal what is sick within them?
Yes.

Do people heal that sickness that is within them?
Sometimes partially, rarely deeply.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

I haven't given it any thought till now and am still drawing a blank when you ask.

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

Do you mean am I an idiot who understands grammatical constructions sufficiently to join in a conversation with other adults?

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

Ah-ha! Now I see you are trying to gauge if I am capable of perceptions that don't just revolve around sex and hunger...

Well I'm just not sure I can answer that one on the grounds that I may incriminate myself.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

Not a bad question either, 'you' are a committee aren't you?

The latter, IMO.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

choiceless awareness

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lidlo lady (account deleted) wrote:
Thu, 26 Jul 2012, 10:03pm

You say, "If I am defined by my thoughts and beliefs I can be the worst bore because I will be constantly needing to prove how I am right..."

True, you *can* be the worst bore, but it isn't a foregone conclusion that you will be. Many people have thoughts and beliefs that are informative, interesting, and entertaining, and if it wasn't for them, we'd be in deep shit.

It really depends on the *quality* of your thoughts and beliefs - not just the fact of them - because your thoughts and beliefs determine the behavior by which you are judged.

r j wrote:
Fri, 27 Jul 2012, 2:15am

That by which I am judged pleasing is more dangerous than that which finds me wanting.

I understand your sentiment though and would assert further that a vacuous mind incapable of holding a thought or belief is not the reason for which we grapple with this thing called consciousness.

The key word in my statement is 'defined'. The more I identify with any belief the more it will undo my ability to be free, to flow with the Tao of the Eternal Marshmallowverse.

judith donson (account deleted) wrote:
Mon, 08 Jul 2013, 2:56am

HI,
Please can we be friends?
My name is Judith,i am a simple girl,I'm interested in you for a good friendship,please contact me back for a better introduction if you're interested.feel free as i will be waiting to hear from you soon (judith.donson22@yahoo.com)

Yours friend Judith.