Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Don Chittenden
Don Chittenden
United States
Birthday: May 22
Member since: Sat, 23 Jun 2012, 5:31am
Last visited 6 years ago

Member Statement

I am interested in laughing and crying as natural healing/clearing mechanisms of the human nervous system. I personally never understood Krishnamurti until I had had years of experience of experimenting with laughing and crying.

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Linguistics, conlanging (inventing one's own language), nostalgia, mathematics, nature study, science, hiking

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

That future is not mine to see, that I know of.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

A profound effect. Without having re-discovered Krishnamurti in 2000 I would probably now be a shriveled old man with a brain utterly clogged by the rattlewords of a hideous psychotherapy cult.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Very important. Working alone, you can get stuck in a rut. Dialogue with others can help you see where you are still clinging to belief.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

It can be organized. I just had a wonderful experience yesterday while dialogging on the Krishnamurti Ning network.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

I have found it helpful to reword some of his expressions. K speaks of the pitfalls of thought, while Bohm rewords that as the pitfalls of knowledge. I use the expression "knowledge/belief", because the same act can be called knowledge or belief depending on who is speaking of it. Also, I have found that allowing myself to cry and to laugh without inhibition helps me wonderfully to understand K's teachings.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

NEVER EVER think you "know" what you only believe, and always be alert to let your beliefs be challenged at a moment's notice.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

I think K's message that thought cannot go beyond itself is misinterpreted to mean we should sit on our hands and wait for some miracle to happen. If I can't logic something out I will sit down with pen and paper and play with the relevant key words of the problem or a few contrary ideas until I have laughed and/or cried my way into understanding the problem. Linear logic is limited, but our brain has other resources...

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Oh no, not me! Just those other Krishnamurtiites! ;-)

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

I have, in the past, been dragged thru hell by clinging to beliefs. After a few experiences of hitting cactus plants as you hang onto the rope of belief, you become very wary of doing that again, no matter HOW persuasive the speaker.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

I don't know. He and Nitya sure did a lot of running around on the Astral Plane or the Knowledge Plane or whatever during his messiah days, if that means anything. And his "process" --- what the devil was that??? Burning pains in his head and neck and talking in a baby voice in his sleep --- WOAH!! That doesn't sound very inviting to me. But a life without conflict: NOW we're talking. I think that's possible. But without the cosmic migraines and the baby voice, please...:-)

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

Advisable for some, yes. I have an old friend who is now well acquainted with K and with the idea of doubt rather than "faith".

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

Do inquiries and then get up and go on about my business just being myself. But I refuse to use the teachings as a template for action. That runs counter to the teachings, anyway. Other gurus issue edicts, which is stupidity on steroids. K only pointed out facts and made a few gentle suggestions here and there.

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