Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Daniel Rengo
Daniel Rengo
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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

I try things on. Sometimes it fits. Sometimes I have to make it fit. Another way of saying "it fits" is that I "get it". I don't need to know why I get something. Understanding something is a little different than "getting it" in my internal language. Understanding my own resistence programming I am aware that i will "go unconscious" to escape the very thing that will help me. Belief is be and live. Relief is an escape etc. I find no use for the orthodox meaning of belief. It hasn't served me. The transitory sense of being and living, now there is something that attracts my interest.
And back to the "fit" thing. It being too loose, it might fall off. It being too tight it constricts my movement. I don't know what the right fit is. It is there or it is not there. I suppose a good fit would be a sense of balance and having access to my native impulses, desires, dreams, access to the otherness.

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Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

I guess so... If one considers practice and performance as identical. Neither requiring witness but one requiring sensitivity and purpose.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

Having conversations creates understandings in a penetrating critical mass of thought that dissolves various subconcious barriers of permission and acceptance to express singularily in the midst of primal fears. It can be like 4 musicians playing to create the sound of 1 more (an invisible 5th)who could not exist without the other 4. I don't see it as important. I see getting "caught " by it. Or not. A good soloist doesnt need support. But givin harmonious unity or collective foundation he can soar to heights otherwise unachievable and from that height experience that otherness in a fresh way that includes a sense of connection. Incarnate, Uncompromised and uncontrolled, unforced agreement.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

His pessimistic outllook on the conditioned mind cannot be dismissed. As Joseph Campbell once stated,"A vital person vitalizes." All truth in life comes through the acts of life. It does not come through the thinking about life although that thinking may have an effect on an action. But it is the action that reveals. Practice of something reveals. Revelation itself does not reveal for revelation is only relevant to that which was concealed and now that it is no longer concealed but revealed it can only obtain permanance through an act. Otherwise it may return to a place of concealment. The act? Giving, with no eye on the reciever.Thus we have Krishna's constant sharing and interaction with others. Krishna murtis views have been incorporated into many "transformational" systems quite successfully. Practicable in many cases meaning to perform for livelihood(sustenance without obsession etc.) and a sense of being alive and able to truly give assistance to others.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

His teachings are about how reality occurs to a man whos sole occupation is to ponder that. It is all difficult. The only thing that is implausible is that reality will occur to me or that "I" will occur to me the same way it occurs this particular advanced primate or any other for that matter.For one thing, he did not grow up a slave, but rather a groomed spiritualist. He took it the next step and turned the final key himself. I suspect that if he hadn't given it away it would have been impossible for him to keep. Turning that key is part of the"sorrow" in the way the word occurs to me at this writing.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

I don't know. It certainly seems as though it has put me more in touch with my depths. The most frightening keys were of course turned by my own initiative. Krishnamurtti may have forced my hand. How can I know that?

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?


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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

I am firmly suspicious that texting is a hinderance. In more of a physical environment, sincerity is more defined and actual and readable. The perverted nature of most human primates implies a resistance to this information that requires almost a resignation that sustained attention will only come through subjecting oneself to organized physicall group withdrawal from existing norms if not common sense. Like a platoon of soldiers heading for the perils of a battlefield together with life or death the outcomes. Individual survival will always take precedence at times. Even if mere survival is closer to death than life. The experience cannot make matters worse. Organization implies progress when it comes to group effort. But it is the very accidents within that organization that make the difference. Organization would set "us" up for a fortunate event. Spontanaity happens or it doesnt. The tendency to be clever will be the rest of it. I don't describe "being spontaneous" as something to be desired. More something to expose.Texting induces a sort of cleverness or "creative writing" which is NOT what makes Krishnamurti attractive. I have recieved his message through the medium of recorded(video, recordings, and dictation) speech rather than writin word. The prompting is merely taking initiative on a direction of inquiry.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

A man evolved psychologically, mentally, socially, emotionally,rather obviously way "ahead of his time" by choice, and by fortune. Removed from time might be a more clever description. Willing to deal with all THAT entails to an admirable(if not pop-worshipable) yet extraordinary(self deleting) degree. He is not inspiration. He is permission; for the fearful primate with enough courage to try on this quite factual if not actual way of existence to possibly experience a more profound moment, a more promising future, for itself and for it's species.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

Sort of deconditioned would be more accurate.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

I don't say that it is not advisable. I exposed the man to my son. We have interesting dialogues but not so much ABOUT K. He was caught by Krishnamurtis words as I was. I am sure of that. I have a tendency to be pretentious so I choose not to promote causes or insights. Just having the attention span to explore them has proven tough enough. My tendency to be "right" is a huge front for the truth. I'll stick with what i don't know that I don't know. Battling a huge false ego is tough enough without being "the guy who teaches about a teacher". It ain't me babe.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

I don't know. I suspect they will continue to inspire men and women of action for generations to come. Works spawned by his writings will continue to cryptically inform society but the whole idea of importance may take on new meaning. In a way that would be importing his views, assimulating and exporting them in a more accessible form through various acts. From a slap in the face to a gentle nudging to wake up the sleeping creature evolving slowly from corrupted society. The word that comes to my mind is that his life and words will grow in appreciation. As one appreciates the mountain stream that gave rise to a raging river. His beauty, his nature, his vitality, his innocense, his vision, and indeed his suffering. Importance fits in the wrong world. A world that may not survive despite the import of words from one man. If his works do not survive because of lack of "popularity" who's works will? His works seem like a seed that has been planted. It will take a lot of destuction to destoy the offspring of these works. Perhaps there will be some new metamorphisus or mythology of his vision.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

Everywhere. Mostly as pertains to my life.

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