Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

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Jordi Guitart
Jordi Guitart
Sweden
Birthday: January 1
Member since: Mon, 21 Sep 2009, 4:06pm
Last visited almost 7 years ago

Member Statement

I think that we, as a whole, are in a very serious danger. That's why it is so important to open a free and open debate about the situation and what can we do to improve it in time to avoid catastrophe.

Interests and Recommendations

Books

The future of humanity, Total freedom, To be human, New education, Aux etudiants, Talks in bangalore 1948, Think on these thinks, The urgency of change, Questions and answers 1982 UK, K. in dialogue with buddhists, The book of life, TaLKS & dIALOGUES SAANEN 1968...

Movies

The legend of Budha.

Music

Vivaldi, Bethoven, Mozart, Mendelson and all the russian composers

Other interests

Nature: Walking in the mountains and forests, rawing in the lakes, etc.

Interview Answers

Does the phrase "living the teachings" have any meaning to you?

Of course. Otherwise we would just be "entertained", without any real learning. If the teachings have any sense for us, we must put them in practice.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

Withou doubt, there is no possibility of learning, because we already know. But reasonable doubt means that we want to discover what is true, not that we are trapped in endless uncertainty because we are not able to distinguish between true and false.

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How do you strike a balance between healthy doubt and ready acceptance in investigating Krishnamurti's proposals?

Withou doubt, there is no possibility of learning, because we already know. But reasonable doubt means that we want to discover what is true, not that we are trapped in endless uncertainty because we are not able to distinguish between true and false.

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Are there any aspects of Krishnamurti's teaching that you find implausible or difficult to accept?

None. K. is the most reasonable person I have ever known of. Some of his sayings are dificult to grasp or understand, I admit, but, after many years of study, I can only say that my concern is not any more on the teachings, they are consistent and good, but on human beings, not clever enough to break the deadly cycle of war and what we call peace, which is only to take the time to prepare more weapons to fight each other again.

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Do you think Krishnamurti was exceptional, or is the transformation he spoke of universally accessible?

For me he was absolutely exceptional in the sense of uncommon. I think he has been the last Budha and that he represents our last oportunity to make sense. Usually it takes several thousands of years for a new Budha to come. Lets take full advantage of this one, because it may well be the last one for most of us.

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How do you personally go about exploring the Krishnamurti's teachings (through personal study, dialogues, dvds)?

I try to use all mieans at hand. Reading his books is the most accessible way, but, for manyyears, I had the pleasure of meeting weekly with several friends to discuss the teachings. I consider those discussions very valuable and useful.

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Can dialogue - in the sense of sincere inquiry - be organized or can it only come about spontaneously, unprompted?

Were the dialogues of K. and Dr. Bohm organised? We can and must organise the physical surroundings. We can offer possibilities. This is not curtailing in any way the spontaneity of the dialogue, that will only exist if it arises from deep within us.

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Do you ever feel that you have been conditioned by Krishnamurti's teachings?

He has just offered me the possibility of discovering how heavily conditioned I was.

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Do you think it is possible to make Krishnamurti more "practicable" than what he himself seems to have allowed for?

To downgrade the message would be a very sad mistake. Anyway, an open disccussion offers many opportunities of learning. Remember the peripathetic school of Socrat.

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Has coming into contact with Krishnamurti and his teachings had any perceptible effect on your life and/or relationships?

Of course. I was rather young then (about 12) and my life has never been the same: the teachings of K. have given to me the certitude that something could and must be done if we don't want to destroy ourselves.
I abandoned catholicism and all religious beliefs and started an endless journey to unveil the purpose of life and the real sense of words like freedom, love, morality, etc.

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Do you think it advisable to introduce Krishnamurti to people you know? Have you ever done it and if yes, what are your experiences?

I have participated during many decades in open discussion meetings. Debate is a very good way of helping each other to clarify any doubts without the interference of any authority.

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What future do you foresee for Krishnamurti's works? Do you think they will grow in importance or will they just gradually die away?

Unfortunately we have a very sad historical experience of what we do with the teachings of the Budhas of the past. Will be behave in a more sensible way this time? I'm afraid that we will be as insane as usual and, in a few decades, some monks dressed in some excentrical garments, will be playing horns and all the rest out of the normal rituallistic paranoia.
Anyway, I think that me must try to study the teachings seriously, and, if we can understand some of their message, perhaps we would be able to help in producing a significant change in society, in time.

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How important do you consider group dialogue to be in understanding the more subtle points of Krishnamurti's message?

I think they have helped me alot. Anyway, personal inquiry is always necessary, and the books are, perhaps, the most friendly way of having the message at hand.

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If you had to sum up what Krishnamurti is all about in just a few words of your own, what would they be?

We think we are individuals and that means that we are in a constant struggle with each other. K's assertion that we are just part of the whole humanity, that our brains are separate but we share the same mind, that intelligence is not a personal possession but just been in contact with mind, has been very important for me in the last times. Clear understanding of the full meaning of this can be the key to any forseeible future for the humanity.

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