Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening

Krishnamurti Quote of the Day

Ommen Camp, Holland | 3rd Public Talk 4th August, 1937

Questioner: There is a real difference between being unaware of our conditioning and imagining that we are unconditioned.

Krishnamurti: Surely that is obvious. To inquire into the unconditioned state when one's mind is limited is so utterly futile. We have to be concerned with those causes which hold thought-emotion in bondage.

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