Questioner: From the amoeba to man the intelligence to be secure, to self-expand is inevitable and natural, it is a closed and vicious circle.
Krishnamurti: That may seem so, but the activity to be secure has not led man to security, to happiness, to wisdom. It has led him to ever-increasing confusion, conflict and misery. There is a different activity which is not of the self, which must be sought out. A different intelligence is needed to experience the timeless, which alone will free us from incessant strife and sorrow. The intelligence that we now possess is the result of craving gratification, security, in crude or subtle form; it is the result of greed; it is the outcome of self-identification. Such an intelligence can never experience the real.
Questioner: Do you say that intelligence and self-consciousness are synonymous?
Krishnamurti: Consciousness is the outcome of identified continuity. Sensation, feeling, rationalization, and the continuity of identified memory make up self-consciousness, do they not? Can we say precisely where consciousness ends and intelligence begins? They flow into each other, do they not? Is there consciousness without intelligence?
Questioner: Does a new intelligence come into being if we are aware of the self-expansive intelligence?
Krishnamurti: We shall know, as experience, the new form of intelligence only when the self-protective and self-expansive intelligence ceases.
Questioner: How can we go beyond this limited intelligence?
Krishnamurti: Through being passively aware of its complex and interrelated activities. In so being aware the causes that nourish the intelligence of the self come to an end without self-conscious effort.
Questioner: How can one cultivate the other intelligence?
Krishnamurti: Is that not a wrong question? I wonder if we are paying interested attention to what is being said. The wrong cannot cultivate the right. We are still thinking in terms of self-expanding intelligence, and that is our difficulty. We are unaware of it and so we ask, without thought, ''How can the other intelligence be cultivated?'' Surely there are certain obvious, essential requirements which will free the mind from this limited intelligence: humility, which is related to humor and mercy; to be without greed, which is to be without identification; to be unworldly, which is to be free from sensate values; to be free from stupidity, from ignorance, which is the lack of self-knowledge, and so on. We must be aware of the cunning and devious ways of the self, and in understanding them virtue comes into being, but virtue is not an end in itself. Self-interest cannot cultivate virtue, it can only perpetuate itself under the mask of virtue; under the cover of virtue there is still the activity of the self. It is as though we were attempting to see the clear, pure light through colored glasses, which we are unaware of wearing. To see the pure light we must first be aware of our colored glasses; this very awareness, if the urge to see the pure light is strong, helps to remove the colored glasses. This removal is not the action of one resistance against another but is an effortless action of understanding. We must be aware of the actual, and the understanding of what is will set thought free; this very understanding will bring about open receptivity, transcending the particular intelligence.
Questioner: How does the intelligence with which we are all familiar come into being?
Krishnamurti: It comes into being through perception, sensation, contact, desire, identification-all of which give continuity to the self through memory. The principle of pleasure, pain, identification is ever sustaining this intelligence which can never open the door to truth.
Third Talk in The Oak Grove, 1946