Krishnamurti & the Art of Awakening
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Family and marage are the beginning of division and conflict in the society .


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Mon, 04 Nov 2019 #1
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That is exactly what krishnamurti pointed out .

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Wed, 06 Nov 2019 #2
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Question: Are you against the institution of the family?

Krishnamurti: I am, if the family is the centre of exploitation, if it is based on exploitation. (Applause) Please, what is the good of merely agreeing with me? You must act to alter this. The desire for perpetuation creates a family which becomes the centre of exploitation. So the question is really, can one ever live without exploiting? Not whether family life is right or wrong, not whether having children is right or wrong, but whether family, possessions, power, are not the result of the desire for security, self-perpetuation. As long as there is this desire, family becomes the centre of exploitation. Can we ever live without exploitation? I say we can. There must be exploitation as long as there is the struggle for self-protection; as long as the mind is seeking security, comfort, through family, religion, authority or tradition, there must be exploitation. And exploitation ceases only when the mind discerns the falseness of security and is no longer ensnared by its own power of creating illusions. If you will experiment with what I say, you will then understand that I am not destroying desire. but that you can live in this world, richly, sanely, a life without limitations, without suffering. You can discover this only by experimenting, not by denying, not through resignation nor by merely imitating. Where intelligence is functioning - and intelligence ceases to function when there is fear and the desire for security - there can be no exploitation.

Most people are waiting for a change to take place that will miraculously alter this system of exploitation. They are waiting for revolutions to realize their hopes, their unfulfilled longings; but in so waiting they are slowly dying. For I think that mere revolutions do not change the fundamental desires of man. But if the individual begins to act with intelligence, without compulsion, irrespective of present conditions or of what revolutions promise in the future, then there is a richness, a completeness whose ecstasy cannot be destroyed.

April 24, 1935

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Thu, 07 Nov 2019 #3
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Once you are exposed to the teachings you cannot ignore and do the opposite for long. Once you are exposed to the teachings of krishnamurti you can no longer fool yourself or others. There is no way out of truth once you are exposed to it. That is the problem.

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Thu, 07 Nov 2019 #4
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Thought is our problem .No individual on the earth is free from thought. It is like saying that one can be free from pollution or bad ground water.

There may be freedom in Death. In ending every moment. Not accumulating memory..I think..

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Thu, 07 Nov 2019 #5
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exploitation
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ex·ploi·ta·tion (?k?sploi-t??sh?n)
n.
1. The act of employing to the greatest possible advantage: exploitation of copper deposits.
2. Utilization of another person or group for selfish purposes: exploitation of unwary consumers.
3. An advertising or publicity program.
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ex•ploi•ta•tion (??k spl???te? ??n)

n.
1. the use of something, esp. for profit: exploitation of oil fields.
2. the use or manipulation of another person for one's own advantage.
3. promotion; publicity.
[1795–1805; < French]
exploi•ta?tion•al, adj.
ex
ploi•ta?tion•al•ly, adv.
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Sat, 09 Nov 2019 #6
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Is this the real reason behind your anger and often hateful comments to others? You have been jilted by someone, you are alone and you need to rationalize that aloneness as something K wanted you to do?

Instead of being falsely concerned with other's imagined mental illness look at your own. Look at the hateful diatribes that you post on here and of how others avoid getting pulled into them.

As I have already pointed out you have pretty much destroyed the General Forum with your confused, illiterate, angry posts that show a rather deep misunderstanding of what K pointed out.

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