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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #181
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I don't know what I should say here. For the sake of krishnamurti let's not waste more time in here on antagonism. For the sake of krishnamurti let's not screw it up..

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #182
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One Self wrote:
Jack you exploited the military for money and the military exploited your brain.

You just made all that up that you wrote in post 185. Aside from being a pathological liar you also are apparently doing a lot of drugs. I won't pretend that I care about you because I don't. But I really recommend that you get some help for your obviously worsening mental disorder.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #183
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Military pay back when I was drafted was $90/month for an E-1. I rose to the rank of E-4 which paid $250/month which included overseas pay and combat pay. I was in the military for 22 months. You do the math if you can. I just posted this to show how grossly inaccurate your posts are.

Also, Donald Trump went to Warton College, University of Penn from which he received a degree. Just barely. For seven years during his junior high school and high school years he went to a "military school" which is where the rich send their asshole sons who they can't do anything with at home. Yes, they wear uniforms and march around which is pretty much the only military training they receive.

So what the hell is the point you're trying to make? Or are you just shooting your mouth off again without any facts?

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #184
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In this forum we have listed 30 past threads on each page. Go back to the page displayed and the one before it and you will see that 14 threads on the first page end with posts by One Self. On the next page 16 threads out of 30 end with posts by One Self.

Two points I want to make about these facts. 1. One Self posts way too much. Way more than anyone else. 2. One Self's posts end more threads than any one else. He is a thread killer because he thinks he knows and he doesn't. One Self has ended half of the past 60 threads started on this forum. Essentially killed them with his opinionated and erroneous posts. One Self has endless opinions but very few facts.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #185
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Jack Pine wrote:
I was in the military for 22 months.

That is two years. One day in the military is enough to brain wash you. No wonder you have no creativity . Now we (the rational people) understand where your antagonism comes from. Keep on destroying yourself with hate. I feel sorry for you.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #186
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KRISHNAMURTI: But you see, my dear child, we do not acknowledge that we are doing something dishonest. You think I am doing something dishonest but I think I am doing something very honest. But for me to realize that I am dishonest is one of the most difficult things, because we do not want to acknowledge to ourselves that we are dishonest.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #187
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One Self wrote:
hat is two years. One day in the military is enough to brain wash you.

You don't know anything about me and you don't know anything about the military. You think people join the military to get rich? You are an idiot. The same egotistical idiot who proclaims: "Everything I say is the truth and a fact." How stupid do you have to be to say something like that? Especially on a Krishnamurti forum.

You are the one who is perpetuating this hate by continuing to try to assault me verbally. But you're too stupid to present a convincing or accurate argument. All your "facts" are garbage. Worry about yourself, your life, your own ugliness, your own violence and hate. Heal that first before you go after someone else.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #188
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Post 198: No citation no credibility. I doubt very much if anyone takes you seriously or trusts you to be honest with your quotes.

And I will continue to correct, criticize and object to your grossly erroneous posts about what K was pointing out. That's how all this started in the first place. You don't discuss what K pointed out you just post your mistaken opinions of what K pointed out. Do you know what a discussion means? For one thing it is to assume you don't know everything to start with.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #189
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One Self wrote:
Keep on destroying yourself with hate. I feel sorry for you.

You are the one who hates and anyone reading this forum has seen that in the past few days. Look at your ugly posts essentially wishing for the death of someone you don't know but hate. Look at some other of your posts that a few people objected to because they were so full of hate. If there is an evil doer here it's you. You have revealed yourself.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #190
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Jack Pine wrote:
Post 198: No citation no credibility.

Just see how mechanical and lifeless this guy is . jack read post #182 and tell us what kind of pain killer you are addicted to.:)

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #191
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Jack Pine wrote:
Post 198: No citation no credibility.

Just see how mechanical and lifeless this guy is . jack read post #182 and tell us what kind of pain killer you are addicted to.:)

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #192
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One Self, these are some of the hateful posts you have made about and to me and others on this forum in the past few days. It's obvious who hates and who is spreading evil on here. It's you buddy. Why don't you try seeing yourself as others do?

One Self wrote:
If you notice jack is intent to trash any new discussion posed by me and idiot in this forum. Fortunately there is death waiting with illnesses for evil people. Soon they fade away.

One Self wrote:
Death is waiting for everyone including you Sean. Obviously after reading so much Krishnamurti still afraid of the fact of death!
How many times have Krishnamurti said that the ego is evil. If anybody let his ego dominate this site then he is evil too. That is logic. That is sane.

One Self wrote:
one self:
Fortunately there is death waiting with illnesses for evil people. Soon they fade away.

Sean wrote:
That is a terrible thing to write.

One Self wrote:
Are you terrified to read it? I doubt it.(I usually don't respond to Sean due to him being confused about K and asking irrelevant questions). K doesn't need questioning unless you are a beginner.

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #193
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Jack ,don't you think that the day that you die there would be less antagonism in the world? Is that not the day that people should celebrate instead of pretending to be sad and wear black?

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #194
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This guy doesn't read Krishnamurti quote that you post . He only reads the citations! No wonder he doesn't change. He remains what he is, an anti-k .

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Thu, 15 Aug 2019 #195
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Jack Pine wrote:
Please stop both of your identities from quoting K to justify your own shallow, erroneous opinions.

There is the proof. He is asking us not to quote Krishnamurti in Krishnamurti site! He is indeed an anti-k and he proves it by his behavior . He is an exploiter ,beware of him.

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Tue, 20 Aug 2019 #196
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"When I say "you" I mean "you" in general."- K.
That is totaly the opposite of using the word "you" to merely condemn .."

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #197
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Before I should consider to make a comment on the deep subjects that our dear Krishnamurti has brought about for us I need to know if I am sustaining or supporting an image at all..

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #198
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We have a very poor audience in here:)

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #199
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We have a very poor audience in here:)

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #200
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One Self wrote:
We have a very poor audience in here:)

if someone compares himself with the rest and apparently feels himself on a stage,
such someone only sees and hears poor audience,
that makes sense, because such someone only sees and hear the self ! ;-()

Truth will unfold itself to those who enquire their own actions.

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #201
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Wim Opdam wrote:
if someone compares himself with the rest and apparently feels himself on a stage,

Thought revolves around the "if"s. Remove the "if"s and thought becomes quiet.

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #202
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Wim Opdam wrote:
if someone compares himself with the rest and apparently feels himself on a stage,
such someone only sees and hears poor audience,
that makes sense, because such someone only sees and hear the self ! ;-()

Of course. The reference to "audience" was a dead give-a-way to how this obviously and relentlessly ego thinks of himself. He actually thinks people come here to read what he writes. And, of course a synonym of "self" is "ego". So we have the endlessly tiresome presence of One Ego. Half of the threads of the last 60 threads on this forum end with his title. As I pointed out before, he's a "thread killer".

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #203
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One Self wrote:
Thought revolves around the "if"s. Remove the "if"s and thought becomes quiet.

Another obvious piece of BS and made up ridiculous "rule" by this self-styled "authority". He reminds me so much of Trump: Ego, lies, authoritarianism and gross ignorance.

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #204
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Jack (the twisted mind interpreter) can't see the truth because he hates what he writes and sees. Now he has a support from the old wim. Wim gets excitement from jack. The whole thing is ill-will. As I said death is a good thing . It cleans the dirt from the earth and is super busy these days.

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #205
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One Self wrote:
Thought revolves around the "if"s.

The above is too much for a man who doesn't have a mind or has a twisted mind. Krishnamurti's teachings are only good for people who have a good mind , not an evil mind.

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Wed, 21 Aug 2019 #206
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Ken D wrote:
"Whence should there be joy to a peaceless man?"

It fits the guy in the animation:)

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Thu, 22 Aug 2019 #207
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Jack (with the assistance of wim sometimes) has been turning this forum into a court room that the judge and the prosecutors are both jack. He is like those monkeys in the zoo who the other monkeys avoid him due to his aggression. Nobody talks back at him (out of fear of God knows what). People like jack are in other Krishnamurti site also. They are anti-k. That means they do the opposite of what the teachings are all about with a vulgar language. He just recently bullied Idiot out of this site(the only person who had something to say) he is ill and there is no cure for him. If you look at his comments during the last five years he has nothing of value to share with anyone. K says do not condemn but since he is an anti-k he does the opposite and condemns Idiot and one-self with vulgarity and he is justified by himself.
I think it is important to expose these characters in here even though it is recommended not to. One can do that without the use of foul language and with logic. (He will pick up part of what I wrote and starts his condemnations over.) .As long as this guy is active bullying in this forum no new thought is ever going to happen. He wants to drag everybody into his darkness but he fails .
I am willing to sacrifice oneself if jack is thrown out of this site I will delete oneself also for the sake of Krishnamurti and the world. And I mean it.

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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 #208
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One Self wrote:
I am willing to sacrifice oneself if jack is thrown out of this site I will delete oneself also for the sake of Krishnamurti and the world. And I mean it.

the seeing is the doing and not depending on anything or anyone and it is never a sacrifice to do what one has to do and as I've said earlyer in this thread:
" the Teaching is not in need of attackers or defenders
but of understanders " !

The used language is only proof of the actual fact that One Self as well as Jack are in one of the first two categories and certainly not in the last one.

i accept the fact that i'm possibly wrong in this observation

every reader must and can determine that for himself, neither I nor anyone else is needed for that, only a clear perception is sufficient!

Truth will unfold itself to those who enquire their own actions.

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Fri, 23 Aug 2019 #209
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Wim Opdam wrote:
the seeing is the doing.

Have you realized that by your self or it is an extract from k which in the second case it is merely words and is useless?

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Sat, 24 Aug 2019 #210
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Jack Pine wrote:
I am so clueless. I think I know what K was pointing out but I don't even understand the basic point he made about time. I am an embarrassment to my self and a stifling influence on this forum. Me and my ignorance have essentially shut this part of the Kinfonet down. Am I proud of my self for that?

Jack, stop exposing yourself . Nobody cares who you are in this forum. And you can't fool people in here with your delusions.

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