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What is fun?


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Thu, 13 Sep 2018 #1
Thumb_avatar Peter Kesting United States 1203 posts in this forum Offline

How does fun relate to all of this?

Playfullness, Laughter, a joke, comradery over a beer together?

(This writer does't drink)

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Fri, 14 Sep 2018 #2
Thumb_1507053_1_ Jayaraj Kapila Kulasinghe Sri Lanka 1208 posts in this forum Offline

Fun is that which interests a person? Something that doesn't strain you?

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Fri, 14 Sep 2018 #3
Thumb_avatar Peter Kesting United States 1203 posts in this forum Offline

Just some first thoughts...

Is fun simply having power? But K has said, My remembrance only, "Power is corruption".

When one plays a game it's only fun when one is winning. For many Business is a game. So is money...and politics.

When the house is on fire can one allow oneself ever to be having fun?

But should one only live a cheerless life, always somber, serious?

Drinking and laughing together gives a sense of belonging. But is the group only an expansion of self. What is involved in having a friend?

Of course, isn't this examination only thought. Deadly analysis. Dissecting a beautiful flower or a poem.

There are two fields, Science and thought have their place. but there is all of everything that is beyond science, beyond thought.

Nothing more to say.

Yes, Sir, this other is completely free of strain. Can one live ones life free of strain. The identified state is strain.

Can one approach the fact that the house is burning without strain?

I think so.

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Fri, 14 Sep 2018 #4
Thumb_avatar idiot ? United States 420 posts in this forum Offline

Peter Kesting wrote:

How does fun relate to all of this?

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Krishnamurti, Think On These Things, Chapter 5:

...try sitting very quietly without fidgeting, without moving your hands or even your toes, and just watch your mind. It is great fun. If you try it as fun, as an amusing thing, you will find that the mind begins to settle down without any effort on your part to control it. There is then no censor, no judge, no evaluator; and when the mind is thus very quiet of itself, spontaneously still, you will discover what it is to be gay. Do you know what gaiety is? It is just to laugh, to take delight in anything or nothing, to know the joy of living, smiling, looking straight into the face of another without any sense of fear.

This chapter is well worth reading and you can do so here:
https://www.jkrishnamurti.org/content/chapter-5

In it, K discusses "creative discontent," the joy of being discontented with everything!

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Sat, 15 Sep 2018 #5
Thumb_avatar Peter Kesting United States 1203 posts in this forum Offline

Hello Idiot ? (I wish I didn't have to call you that )

But thank you much for the reference. Something I had not read before.

Peter

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Mon, 17 Sep 2018 #6
Thumb_screenshot_20180710-010635 Myself Wrote United States 640 posts in this forum Offline

If we put K out of the question and try to find the answer ourselves I think that we have to tackle the question negatively. Meaning finding out what is not fun and eliminating that to get to what may be fun.

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Mon, 17 Sep 2018 #7
Thumb_avatar Peter Kesting United States 1203 posts in this forum Offline

It looks like we need to throw out all seeking and also even the word. But also throw out any avoidance.

Can we keep the word Joy?

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Mon, 17 Sep 2018 #8
Thumb_avatar Peter Kesting United States 1203 posts in this forum Offline

Thinking about this further, it's very easy to see that joy cannot be sought. But it's easy to say let's play ball.

But every moment is unique and must be seen its presentness free of all words.

But you see right here we have words. Can we both have the words and also be free of the words?

Maybe I'd better keep quiet :)

You may not hear from me again.

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