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Being what one is


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Sat, 04 Nov 2017 #61
Thumb_baboon-9186 dave h United Kingdom 1165 posts in this forum Offline

Tom Paine wrote:
What about the concepts of my country...my religion...my house or car...my beloved possessions(leaving aside that we all need basic shelter and perhaps a car to get to the supermarket and work)....as well as 'me'...'you'...good/bad...right/wrong? Are these somehow related to our 'basic drives'?

I would say so Tom. My tribe, my family, or with animals, my pack, my pride, my colony. Thought can warp and exaggerate these basic instincts, but it can also help to explore their inappropriateness.

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Sat, 04 Nov 2017 #62
Thumb_baboon-9186 dave h United Kingdom 1165 posts in this forum Offline

richard head wrote:
Issues seem to arise when we expand that capacity to compare subjectively, no?

When we think that there is more to "what should be" than the expression of desire to fulfill an image, then we confuse the two.

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Sat, 04 Nov 2017 #63
Thumb_stringio richard head United States 332 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

dave h wrote:
When we think that there is more to "what should be" than the expression of desire to fulfill an image, then we confuse the two.

I am wondering then, if it is something as simple as a recurring thought, how humanity collectively cannot see the stupidity in thinking the same thought(s) over and over and expecting a different result?

Trapped by biology indeed.

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Tue, 12 Dec 2017 #64
Thumb_baboon-9186 dave h United Kingdom 1165 posts in this forum Offline

richard head wrote:
I am wondering then, if it is something as simple as a recurring thought, how humanity collectively cannot see the stupidity in thinking the same thought(s) over and over and expecting a different result?

We live in a society where one man trades off another man's suffering for their own pleasure. Pleasure is the drug, and there's a lot of peer pressure.

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