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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #1
Thumb_man_question_mark dhirendra singh India 2984 posts in this forum Offline

Everyone wants reward, it is there in schools, in work place, in politics, in social work, in forms of grades, money , fame, it's there in Facebook as like button, and its here as recommend button...What if it was not there, the recommend button in this k forum? More votes decide the truth? Listeners of K often clapped during his talks, and he never considered it worthwhile. So why is a K site not being aware of the same old rewarding business, and avoid it. Possibly its not a big issue, but possibly it is...

I don't know

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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #2
Thumb_basquiat-boom-for-real-feature-001 Katy Alias United Kingdom 347 posts in this forum Offline

dhirendra singh wrote:
Possibly its not a big issue, but possibly it is...

Hi Dhiru,

Good to read you again :)

I don't think the recommend button is a big issue and it can let a writer know if anyone else is reading him or her - is 'on the same page' or not !
We don't always have to say formally, 'yes, I agree' or 'bravo, well said' or post a smile, we can just hit the recommend button instead.

'bye for now, Katy

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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #3
Thumb_man_question_mark dhirendra singh India 2984 posts in this forum Offline

Katy Alias wrote:
We don't always have to say formally, 'yes, I agree' or 'bravo, well said' or post a smile, we can just hit the recommend button instead.

Hi Katy

Nice to see you too :)
I keep counting my recommend numbers, and it become an approval...though not a big issue or may be it is;)

I don't know

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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #4
Thumb_basquiat-boom-for-real-feature-001 Katy Alias United Kingdom 347 posts in this forum Offline

I have just recommended your reply !:)

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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #5
Thumb_man_question_mark dhirendra singh India 2984 posts in this forum Offline

Katy Alias wrote:
I have just recommended your reply !:)

Thank you for appreciation, it keeps me motivated ;)

I don't know

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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #6
Thumb_basquiat-boom-for-real-feature-001 Katy Alias United Kingdom 347 posts in this forum Offline

dhirendra singh wrote:
Thank you for appreciation, it keeps me motivated ;)

You're very welcome, Dhiru...me too :)

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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #7
Thumb_img_0244 Jack Pine United States 5742 posts in this forum Offline

Yes let's remove the recommend button. It has no purpose. If you like a post write something and say why or don't write something.

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Mon, 29 Aug 2016 #8
Thumb_nolet Rich Nolet Canada 329 posts in this forum Offline

We have 19 recommend about the recommend button in 7 posts. Let's enjoy it while it is still there...lol...:-)

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Tue, 30 Aug 2016 #9
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Clap-clap.......Jolly good show mate! Love you----hugs! ;)

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Wed, 31 Aug 2016 #10
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

dhirendra singh wrote:
Everyone wants reward,

The mechanical/robotic/automatic response of the human thinking mechanism can only comprehend 1.....not 1....and default. Reward-punishment-anger/fright (fear).

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #11
Thumb_man_question_mark dhirendra singh India 2984 posts in this forum Offline

randall merryman wrote:
Clap-clap.......Jolly good show mate! Love you----hugs! ;)

:-) thanks

I don't know

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #12
Thumb_man_question_mark dhirendra singh India 2984 posts in this forum Offline

randall merryman wrote:
The mechanical/robotic/automatic response of the human thinking mechanism can only comprehend 1.....not 1....and default. Reward-punishment-anger/fright (fear).

True, though if we understand this then why we promote it here, in a K place, discussing K and behaving just opposite isn't hypocrisy?

I don't know

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #13
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

dhirendra singh wrote:
if we understand this then why we promote it here, in a K place, discussing K and behaving just opposite isn't hypocrisy?

Hypocrisy comes when we pretend to understand the first step, while constantly discussing the second and third step. Don't pretend, be an idiot (not personal). Listen well, life will explain itself very clearly. Resistance (intellectual gymnastics as explainations) is the painful factor.

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #14
Thumb_stringio Hari Govind India 27 posts in this forum Offline

Clicking on the button could have any number of reasons...

Maybe it is indicative of a deep felt resonance with what has been written.
..Maybe a strategic response to bolster a comrade in argument..
Maybe a lazy, reflexive, mechanical act...
And so on.
Who knows why it is done? Only he who clicks perhaps...
Or maybe even he does not know?
Why have an opinion on the matter then?

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #15
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Hari Govind wrote:
Why have an opinion on the matter then?

Why indeed. Don't opinions make us feel special, important? Don't they help us escape the reality of our condition/program? They help us dominate/manipulate others, don't they?

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #16
Thumb_leaping_fire_frog_by_sirenofchaos natarajan shivan India 87 posts in this forum Offline

Hari Govind wrote:
Who knows why it is done? Only he who clicks perhaps...
Or maybe even he does not know?

The memory of Nasadiya Sukta trickling down perhaps?

Excerpt:

Whence all creation had its origin,

he, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not,

he, who surveys it all from highest heaven,

he knows - or maybe even he does not know.

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #17
Thumb_stringio Hari Govind India 27 posts in this forum Offline

Very true Randall.

If dominance and manipulation, escaping the reality, feeling special and important is what ones life is, the cultivation and nurturing of opinion is inevitable.

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #18
Thumb_stringio Hari Govind India 27 posts in this forum Offline

Plagiarism natarajan, plain and simple

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #19
Thumb_leaping_fire_frog_by_sirenofchaos natarajan shivan India 87 posts in this forum Offline

Hari Govind wrote:
Plagiarism natarajan, plain and simple

Hari, the passage is a sort of revelation if one may call it that way inspiring the likes of Carl Sagan, it locates time as a derivative of perception; not knowing the beginning of time, grounds its origin on awareness and perception.

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #20
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Hari Govind wrote:
If dominance and manipulation, escaping the reality, feeling special and important is what ones life is,

All those who do not, swim at this end of the pool, please raise your hand.

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #21
Thumb_stringio Hari Govind India 27 posts in this forum Offline

Heard it being chanted this morning, by the banks of a rushing Cauvery, with bells in the distance.

Nearly took the top of my head off. Have been chewing over it since, I guess.

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #22
Thumb_stringio Hari Govind India 27 posts in this forum Offline

Randall, there are billions of people on this earth, what makes you so certain that they are all as you describe?
Insight?

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #23
Thumb_basquiat-boom-for-real-feature-001 Katy Alias United Kingdom 347 posts in this forum Offline

@Dhiru,

Krishnamurti did not need anyone to clap or recommend anything - he could see his audience :)

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Thu, 01 Sep 2016 #24
Thumb_donna_and_jim_fb_bw Tom Paine United States 3169 posts in this forum Offline

Hari Govind wrote:
Randall, there are billions of people on this earth, what makes you so certain that they are all as you describe?

I think he's addressing us here on the forum.

Let it Be

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Fri, 02 Sep 2016 #25
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Tom Paine wrote:
I think he's addressing us here on the forum.

Are we suggesting ourselves to be separate/different from the billions and billions of other human minds?

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Fri, 02 Sep 2016 #26
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Hari Govind wrote:
what makes you so certain that they are all as you describe?

Are there not fundamental similarities in all human minds sir? It does not take Insight to see that hair style and skin color or football allegiance are not fundamental. And so these differences (and our own belief that we as individuals are special) lead us to accept that all people are different, but are they, deeply, different?

If I can see clearly and so understand deeply....fundamentally what the mind (the one on top of my shoulders) is and does, can we not say that anyone who has one of these things, has also these common characteristics?

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Fri, 02 Sep 2016 #27
Thumb_stringio randall merryman United States 3832 posts in this forum ACCOUNT DELETED

Hari Govind wrote:
Randall, there are billions of people on this earth

And so how many will raise their hand? ;)

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Fri, 02 Sep 2016 #28
Thumb_donna_and_jim_fb_bw Tom Paine United States 3169 posts in this forum Offline

randall merryman wrote:
Tom Paine wrote:

I think he's addressing us here on the forum.
Are we suggesting ourselves to be separate/different from the billions and billions of other human minds?

No! I was trying to say, forget about the other billions and their consciousness. It's mine I am living with... that creates disorder...that is pertinent to the discussion. If I'm in disorder, it doesn't matter one bit whether a few billion are in order or not.

Let it Be

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Fri, 02 Sep 2016 #29
Thumb_stringio Hari Govind India 27 posts in this forum Offline

randall merryman wrote:
And so these differences (and our own belief that we as individuals are special) lead us to accept that all people are different, but are they, deeply, different?

No Randall.Your statement is mostly true,I agree on that.
It is not Absolutely true however.Saying that one does not know is the intelligent response dont you think?

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Fri, 02 Sep 2016 #30
Thumb_stringio Hari Govind India 27 posts in this forum Offline

randall merryman wrote:
And so how many will raise their hand? ;)

10,126 last time i checked :)

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